Comments on: Ordinary Language Philosophy and your dog (pets III) http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html This Blog Sits At the Intersection of Anthropology and Economics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:43:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pets Dogs http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7983 Pets Dogs Sat, 24 Feb 2007 00:50:52 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7983 <strong>Pets Dogs</strong> Dogs, Humans and even Cats Hogan, a 2-year-old Black Lab, has started writing in his own blog. Pets Dogs

Dogs, Humans and even Cats Hogan, a 2-year-old Black Lab, has started writing in his own blog.

]]> By: Hanno http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7982 Hanno Fri, 24 Sep 2004 03:59:34 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7982 <a href="http://das.datenrettung-1x1.de" rel="nofollow">Thanks!</a><br /> Ein wirklich sehr Interessante Seite mit guten Informationen. Thanks!
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]]> By: David Tufte http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7980 David Tufte Tue, 15 Jun 2004 16:28:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7980 Thought I'd share my observations on moving across a breezeway with two 6 month old dogs. We blocked both sides of the breezeway so the dogs couldn't run down to their play area in the courtyard. We then opened both doors and proceeded to carry everything from one apartment to its mirror image (other than the view). The dogs ran back and forth and "helped", but clearly maintained a preference for the old apartment. Then, before we were half done, we moved our bed. The dogs followed it and refused to return to the old apartment. They had not done this when we moved the guest bed. What do you make about this? Thought I’d share my observations on moving across a breezeway with two 6 month old dogs.

We blocked both sides of the breezeway so the dogs couldn’t run down to their play area in the courtyard. We then opened both doors and proceeded to carry everything from one apartment to its mirror image (other than the view). The dogs ran back and forth and “helped”, but clearly maintained a preference for the old apartment.

Then, before we were half done, we moved our bed. The dogs followed it and refused to return to the old apartment. They had not done this when we moved the guest bed.

What do you make about this?

]]> By: leora http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7979 leora Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:32:08 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7979 Leora I know, I know, Rico the border collie. 200 words seems like a lot but its not enough for Rico to understand the sentence “Gizmo, we’re changing houses because we’re running out of room and Jeff really needs a bigger office.” Thank you for the Gekko quote. It's perfect here. Leora

I know, I know, Rico the border collie. 200 words seems like a lot but its not enough for Rico to understand the sentence “Gizmo, we’re changing houses because we’re running out of room and Jeff really needs a bigger office.”

Thank you for the Gekko quote. It’s perfect here.

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7978 Grant Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:28:33 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7978 Puck, thanks for the comment. If we are transformational, changing often and a lot in the course of a lifetime, what are the chances we are going to find another person who is changing in the same ways, at the same rate, with the same frequency. The romantic model is under challenge, possibly. And come to think of it, maybe this is why pets matter so much. First, they accept our transformation, but then they "fix in place." They don't change, unless and until we change them. Thoughts only. Steve, thanks for the comment and the correction. I recently bought an Aibo, the Japanese pet surrogate. I hope to post on this soon. Puck, thanks for the comment. If we are transformational, changing often and a lot in the course of a lifetime, what are the chances we are going to find another person who is changing in the same ways, at the same rate, with the same frequency. The romantic model is under challenge, possibly. And come to think of it, maybe this is why pets matter so much. First, they accept our transformation, but then they “fix in place.” They don’t change, unless and until we change them. Thoughts only.

Steve, thanks for the comment and the correction. I recently bought an Aibo, the Japanese pet surrogate. I hope to post on this soon.

]]> By: Puck http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7977 Puck Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:29:27 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7977 Brilliant: “all of our pets are now seeing eye.” And disheartening, actually. If we have indeed transformed our pets to make them useful companions, is this because we are no longer able to successfully create, accept, nurture and sustain relationships of the human variety? Are we willing to invest time, energy and emotion only into animals who won’t refuse us and who will most assuredly provide us with unconditional love? When did we become chickens? Brilliant: “all of our pets are now seeing eye.” And disheartening, actually. If we have indeed transformed our pets to make them useful companions, is this because we are no longer able to successfully create, accept, nurture and sustain relationships of the human variety? Are we willing to invest time, energy and emotion only into animals who won’t refuse us and who will most assuredly provide us with unconditional love? When did we become chickens?

]]> By: Steve Portigal http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7976 Steve Portigal Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:59:29 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7976 It'd be fascinating to get in a time machine and see what robot pets look like in 20 years. Do they exist? Will they be animal-like (btw, what is the equivalent word for anthropomorphic if we're talking about animal-like instead of human-like?) or abstract or more human? Would we want a pet with full speech recognition? If you believe that technology and market forces will work to fill a need that nature is not fulfilling (although it could be price or poop or barking or whatever), then the robot thing is fascinating for that reason. Of course, technology being what it is, who's to say that the developments will be electronic? Maybe pets are the killer app for genetic research - forget all this playing God with your child, how's about getting a dog that eats newspaper and poops smell-free pellets that go in the garden and understands 300 pre-selected words in your voice only and that has a homing instinct to your house? We've got glow-in-the-dark pets right now, so that vector exists, too... It’d be fascinating to get in a time machine and see what robot pets look like in 20 years. Do they exist? Will they be animal-like (btw, what is the equivalent word for anthropomorphic if we’re talking about animal-like instead of human-like?) or abstract or more human? Would we want a pet with full speech recognition?

If you believe that technology and market forces will work to fill a need that nature is not fulfilling (although it could be price or poop or barking or whatever), then the robot thing is fascinating for that reason.

Of course, technology being what it is, who’s to say that the developments will be electronic? Maybe pets are the killer app for genetic research – forget all this playing God with your child, how’s about getting a dog that eats newspaper and poops smell-free pellets that go in the garden and understands 300 pre-selected words in your voice only and that has a homing instinct to your house? We’ve got glow-in-the-dark pets right now, so that vector exists, too…

]]> By: Steve Portigal http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7975 Steve Portigal Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:51:34 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7975 I always knew that as a Far Side cartoon... http://home.earthlink.net/~grleone/funny/farside/ginger.gif I always knew that as a Far Side cartoon…

http://home.earthlink.net/~grleone/funny/farside/ginger.gif

]]> By: LK http://cultureby.com/2004/06/ordinary_langua.html/comment-page-1#comment-7974 LK Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:19:22 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1191#comment-7974 grant, all this talk about pets and projection and you haven't mentioned rico the border collie? http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/06/10/sci-tech/dog_learn040610 apparently gizmo, ok make that rico, hears and gets a lot more than the blah blah blah. so....does this mean that gordon gekko's "want a friend? get a dog" suggestion from "wall street" (1987) was eerily prophetic? grant,

all this talk about pets and projection and you haven’t mentioned rico the border collie?

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/06/10/sci-tech/dog_learn040610

apparently gizmo, ok make that rico, hears and gets a lot more than the blah blah blah.

so….does this mean that gordon gekko’s “want a friend? get a dog” suggestion from “wall street” (1987) was eerily prophetic?

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