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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8019</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having stumbled onto this debate quite late in the game, the only additional variable worth considering is the shapeliness of the actual average wearer vs. those we see in the magazines.  Studies repeatedly tell us that the population is more obese than ever before, and what place better testifies to that fact than one&#039;s midriff.
A woman with a great figure (and many young celebrity-role models fell into this category) would likely seize on the bare midriff trend to show off their shape, particularly when contrasted with the belly of the average real-life female; but as the bare midriff practice grew, pressure among the much larger (pardon the pun) population to do the same was bound to kill the fad.  Males are all familiar with the sight of a plump woman in the mall who, despite offering a revealing look at her middle, should have covered up.  Over time, as the practice caught on among a wider swath of the female population, it stands to reason, many of these women likely failed in the desired result, ie, to attract favorable attention from men, and are growing rather self conscious about baring themselves in a way they probably never would have considered before the trend began.
Perhaps men, having an abundance of choice (at least to look at), never thinking that they might be squelching the trend, and given the male reputation for being crude and insensitive, were not reluctant to in some cases offer these women their honest opinions about how these women compared to, say, Britney Spears.
While I&#039;m at it, the same likely holds true for middle-aged women (representing a still larger segment of the clothes-buying population) who may not be as trim as they once were, and are frustrated by a trend that does the very opposite of flattering them.
The bare midriff is just not a long-term trend for our times (regretfully).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having stumbled onto this debate quite late in the game, the only additional variable worth considering is the shapeliness of the actual average wearer vs. those we see in the magazines.  Studies repeatedly tell us that the population is more obese than ever before, and what place better testifies to that fact than one&#8217;s midriff.</p>
<p>A woman with a great figure (and many young celebrity-role models fell into this category) would likely seize on the bare midriff trend to show off their shape, particularly when contrasted with the belly of the average real-life female; but as the bare midriff practice grew, pressure among the much larger (pardon the pun) population to do the same was bound to kill the fad.  Males are all familiar with the sight of a plump woman in the mall who, despite offering a revealing look at her middle, should have covered up.  Over time, as the practice caught on among a wider swath of the female population, it stands to reason, many of these women likely failed in the desired result, ie, to attract favorable attention from men, and are growing rather self conscious about baring themselves in a way they probably never would have considered before the trend began.</p>
<p>Perhaps men, having an abundance of choice (at least to look at), never thinking that they might be squelching the trend, and given the male reputation for being crude and insensitive, were not reluctant to in some cases offer these women their honest opinions about how these women compared to, say, Britney Spears.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m at it, the same likely holds true for middle-aged women (representing a still larger segment of the clothes-buying population) who may not be as trim as they once were, and are frustrated by a trend that does the very opposite of flattering them.</p>
<p>The bare midriff is just not a long-term trend for our times (regretfully).</p>
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		<title>By: Deos</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GreenGourd's Garden</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8020</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenGourd's Garden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bare Midriffs, Modern Pentathlon, Greenland, and&lt;/strong&gt;
I stumbled onto this post on the economics and anthropology of the bare midriff at This Blog Sits at the....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bare Midriffs, Modern Pentathlon, Greenland, and</strong></p>
<p>I stumbled onto this post on the economics and anthropology of the bare midriff at This Blog Sits at the&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: grant</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8017</link>
		<dc:creator>grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2004 13:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To one and all, I am way behind in responding to these several interesting, informative, and clever comments.  (Jeff got a big laugh here in Chicago.)  Promise to do so this weekend when I am back in Montreal.  Grant
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To one and all, I am way behind in responding to these several interesting, informative, and clever comments.  (Jeff got a big laugh here in Chicago.)  Promise to do so this weekend when I am back in Montreal.  Grant</p>
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		<title>By: Petey</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8016</link>
		<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In terms of market barometers, we should have seen the end coming when even the most canine of males blush at the sight of, not only the bare mid-riff, but also the exposed floss-influenced undergarments proclaiming their existence everytime a so-dressed woman bends at the waist.
And how many males have been in the terribly awkward position of noticing an outlier whom you then realize is likely younger than voting age? As a matter of practical social decorum, I say the pendulum of provacative dress swinging back towards modesty is way overdue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of market barometers, we should have seen the end coming when even the most canine of males blush at the sight of, not only the bare mid-riff, but also the exposed floss-influenced undergarments proclaiming their existence everytime a so-dressed woman bends at the waist.</p>
<p>And how many males have been in the terribly awkward position of noticing an outlier whom you then realize is likely younger than voting age? As a matter of practical social decorum, I say the pendulum of provacative dress swinging back towards modesty is way overdue.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that a couple of really
interesting economic and anthropological
questions related to bare mid-riffs are
being missed here.  They are:
1) Why is it that, in general, only the
women who should have bare mid-riffs, do
have bare mid-riffs?
2) What is the value of the public good
created by the designer who came up with
low rise jeans and bare mid-riff blouses?
He or she must have captured only a tiny,
tiny fraction of all of the surplus
generated, which means, of course, that
skin-revealing fashions are underproduced.
This immediately implies the need for
government subsidies to correct this
troublesome market imperfection.
Jeff
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that a couple of really<br />
interesting economic and anthropological<br />
questions related to bare mid-riffs are<br />
being missed here.  They are:</p>
<p>1) Why is it that, in general, only the<br />
women who should have bare mid-riffs, do<br />
have bare mid-riffs?</p>
<p>2) What is the value of the public good<br />
created by the designer who came up with<br />
low rise jeans and bare mid-riff blouses?<br />
He or she must have captured only a tiny,<br />
tiny fraction of all of the surplus<br />
generated, which means, of course, that<br />
skin-revealing fashions are underproduced.<br />
This immediately implies the need for<br />
government subsidies to correct this<br />
troublesome market imperfection.</p>
<p>Jeff</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8014</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2004 17:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fashion followers want to be &quot;cool&quot; -- whatever that is.  Almost always it&#039;s a bit, or very much, different from the current norm in some way.
And almost always it&#039;s an 18 year old, (plus 5 minus 3) look.  Sexy &amp; young &amp; fresh; with sexy not always a lot of skin.
I noticed that Pokemon lost a lot of coolness when 8 year old &quot;brats&quot; started following it.  If the single digit age set is wearing it, doing it, it can&#039;t be THAT cool.
In Slovakia, bell bottoms came back a couple of years ago, slightly -- but only among girls.  I&#039;m sure there&#039;s significant fashion cycle differences between guys and chicks.  But cool guys will always want promiscuous sex.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fashion followers want to be &#8220;cool&#8221; &#8212; whatever that is.  Almost always it&#8217;s a bit, or very much, different from the current norm in some way.</p>
<p>And almost always it&#8217;s an 18 year old, (plus 5 minus 3) look.  Sexy &#038; young & fresh; with sexy not always a lot of skin.</p>
<p>I noticed that Pokemon lost a lot of coolness when 8 year old &#8220;brats&#8221; started following it.  If the single digit age set is wearing it, doing it, it can&#8217;t be THAT cool.</p>
<p>In Slovakia, bell bottoms came back a couple of years ago, slightly &#8212; but only among girls.  I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s significant fashion cycle differences between guys and chicks.  But cool guys will always want promiscuous sex.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8013</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly people.... everyone knows trashy women are a Giffen good.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly people&#8230;. everyone knows trashy women are a Giffen good.</p>
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		<title>By: LK</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8012</link>
		<dc:creator>LK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2004 01:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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this just in...from femalefirst.co.uk
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Meanwhile, Madonna has caused controversy by launching a collection of sexy children&#039;s clothes. The superstar flew to Los Angeles last week to view the finished range, which includes mini skirts and see-through tops. The &#039;Sweet Heart&#039; collection, aimed at youngsters as young as two, includes skimpy clothes made from see-through chiffon...The faux leather range also includes mini biker jackets and ra-ra skirts with the slogan &#039;Love&#039;. A source said: &quot;Madonna was inspired by her daughter Lourdes. Although she&#039;s only six, Madonna lets her wear short skirts and make-up.&quot;
anyone?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this just in&#8230;from femalefirst.co.uk<br />
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Meanwhile, Madonna has caused controversy by launching a collection of sexy children&#8217;s clothes. The superstar flew to Los Angeles last week to view the finished range, which includes mini skirts and see-through tops. The &#8216;Sweet Heart&#8217; collection, aimed at youngsters as young as two, includes skimpy clothes made from see-through chiffon&#8230;The faux leather range also includes mini biker jackets and ra-ra skirts with the slogan &#8216;Love&#8217;. A source said: &#8220;Madonna was inspired by her daughter Lourdes. Although she&#8217;s only six, Madonna lets her wear short skirts and make-up.&#8221;</p>
<p>anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Will Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2004/06/the_economics_a.html/comment-page-1#comment-8011</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2004 13:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tended to understand these things on the model of sensory habituation (you know, how you stop noticing the buzz of the air-conditioner, the smell on a farm, the feel of your own clothes). After a while, certain kinds of display which were at one point quite salient and attention-grabbing start blending into the background. I&#039;m not sure that you should assume that the move to cover up is the sort of collective action problem you have in mind. Women who don&#039;t cover up aren&#039;t a sort of holdout who can reap advantages if others cover up but they don&#039;t. If they don&#039;t cover up, they&#039;re simply stuck with a played out look; due to habitutation, the men just aren&#039;t noticing any more. They really DO come off trashy in the sense that their resistance to covering up is best explained no longer by conformity with fashion, but a fairly strong desire to display themselves in spite of the fashion. But since this isn&#039;t going to work they way they hope it will (since the salience of skin has worn off), they will simply look desperate and sad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tended to understand these things on the model of sensory habituation (you know, how you stop noticing the buzz of the air-conditioner, the smell on a farm, the feel of your own clothes). After a while, certain kinds of display which were at one point quite salient and attention-grabbing start blending into the background. I&#8217;m not sure that you should assume that the move to cover up is the sort of collective action problem you have in mind. Women who don&#8217;t cover up aren&#8217;t a sort of holdout who can reap advantages if others cover up but they don&#8217;t. If they don&#8217;t cover up, they&#8217;re simply stuck with a played out look; due to habitutation, the men just aren&#8217;t noticing any more. They really DO come off trashy in the sense that their resistance to covering up is best explained no longer by conformity with fashion, but a fairly strong desire to display themselves in spite of the fashion. But since this isn&#8217;t going to work they way they hope it will (since the salience of skin has worn off), they will simply look desperate and sad.</p>
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