Comments on: The Cuba Economy http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html This Blog Sits At the Intersection of Anthropology and Economics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:43:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Will http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7763 Will Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:43:40 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7763 that's very interesting to play devil's advocate - arguably it's those cultures that are the most repressed and non spontaneous that seem to most often squeeze out the richest inner fantasy lives and spectacles that you're talk about, invented by the creative few driven to excess... Japan (and England) seem to be good examples? that’s very interesting

to play devil’s advocate – arguably it’s those cultures that are the most repressed and non spontaneous that seem to most often squeeze out the richest inner fantasy lives and spectacles that you’re talk about, invented by the creative few driven to excess… Japan (and England) seem to be good examples?

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7762 Grant Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:42:17 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7762 Skepticos Th#nks for your post. You #re entirely right. The soci#l-politic#l re#lities of Cub# before the revolution were pretty horrifying. I me#nt to evoke only the feeling for extr#v#g#nce #nd spect#cle cre#ted in the pre revolution#ry regime. On the other h#nd, Cub# #fter the revolution is # horror of its own. #s usu#l, it turns out the #nswer to free m#rkets “pre” w#s not st#te control “post,” but still freer m#rkets c#p#ble of displ#cing mobsters #nd elites. Th#nks, Gr#nt Skepticos

Th#nks for your post. You #re entirely right. The soci#l-politic#l re#lities of Cub# before the revolution were pretty horrifying. I me#nt to evoke only the feeling for extr#v#g#nce #nd spect#cle cre#ted in the pre revolution#ry regime.

On the other h#nd, Cub# #fter the revolution is # horror of its own. #s usu#l, it turns out the #nswer to free m#rkets “pre” w#s not st#te control “post,” but still freer m#rkets c#p#ble of displ#cing mobsters #nd elites.

Th#nks, Gr#nt

]]> By: Skeptikos http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7761 Skeptikos Sat, 31 Jul 2004 12:16:56 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7761 Interesting #n#lysis. Recently there w#s # blog post th#t m#de comments on “tid#l pools”. #nd perh#ps th#t should be considered here, especi#lly in reference to G#briel Rossm#n’s comment th#t there h#s been # Cirque #t WDW for 5 ye#rs. If I underst#nd the Cub# model. #ll c#pit#l w#s redirected by l#w to # limited few who held “empire” close to their he#rts. When something new or origin#l #ppe#red #nd w#s successful, it inevit#bly w#s #bsorbed by people who through unique leg#l structures, #nd ne#rly leg#l org#niz#tion#l violence were #ble comm#nder it’s c#sh stre#ms #nd in # “reverse” income redistribution scheme. Essenti#lly insuring th#t the “ruling persons of interest” ret#ined the c#pit#l stre#ms, reg#rdless of their contribution to the process of cre#tion of the produced goods. Essenti#lly cre#ting # tid#l pool of c#pit#l. Isn’t this the re#son such # foul being such #s C#stro w#s #ble to work his evil m#gic? To hold pre C#stro Cub# up #s # model h#s some very serious shortcomings. I h#ve #lw#ys felt th#t system to be directly responsible for the one th#t followed. C#use #nd Effect. Wh#t existed prior to C#stro w#s # diverse #nd cre#tive culture th#t w#s liter#lly “h#rnessed” to de#th. Hence the e#sy p#th th#t C#stro found. It seems to me, holding up the d#m#ge this p#rticul#r type of c#pit#list committed to # vibr#nt culture, is simil#r to the s#me #nti-property sentiments of your st#nd#rd v#riety Communists. In other words, I #ssert th#t the people w#nted th#t freedom, the former rulers did not respect th#t (but did benefit from it), #nd d#m#ged the culture to the point th#t #n “infection” like C#stro could so overwhelm the body politic. Wh#t existed in Cub# w#s too close to Violent feud#lism to me. I think history is on my side, #s whenever f#lse freem#rkets like this exist it opens the system to #tt#ck, #nd destruction. Interesting #n#lysis. Recently there w#s # blog post th#t m#de comments on “tid#l pools”. #nd perh#ps th#t should be considered here, especi#lly in reference to G#briel Rossm#n’s comment th#t there h#s been # Cirque #t WDW for 5 ye#rs. If I underst#nd the Cub# model. #ll c#pit#l w#s redirected by l#w to # limited few who held “empire” close to their he#rts. When something new or origin#l #ppe#red #nd w#s successful, it inevit#bly w#s #bsorbed by people who through unique leg#l structures, #nd ne#rly leg#l org#niz#tion#l violence were #ble comm#nder it’s c#sh stre#ms #nd in # “reverse” income redistribution scheme. Essenti#lly insuring th#t the “ruling persons of interest” ret#ined the c#pit#l stre#ms, reg#rdless of their contribution to the process of cre#tion of the produced goods. Essenti#lly cre#ting # tid#l pool of c#pit#l. Isn’t this the re#son such # foul being such #s C#stro w#s #ble to work his evil m#gic?

To hold pre C#stro Cub# up #s # model h#s some very serious shortcomings. I h#ve #lw#ys felt th#t system to be directly responsible for the one th#t followed. C#use #nd Effect. Wh#t existed prior to C#stro w#s # diverse #nd cre#tive culture th#t w#s liter#lly “h#rnessed” to de#th. Hence the e#sy p#th th#t C#stro found. It seems to me, holding up the d#m#ge this p#rticul#r type of c#pit#list committed to # vibr#nt culture, is simil#r to the s#me #nti-property sentiments of your st#nd#rd v#riety Communists. In other words, I #ssert th#t the people w#nted th#t freedom, the former rulers did not respect th#t (but did benefit from it), #nd d#m#ged the culture to the point th#t #n “infection” like C#stro could so overwhelm the body politic.

Wh#t existed in Cub# w#s too close to Violent feud#lism to me. I think history is on my side, #s whenever f#lse freem#rkets like this exist it opens the system to #tt#ck, #nd destruction.

]]> By: Anonymous http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7760 Anonymous Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:04:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7760 testing: Thi5 i5 pxrticulxrly bxd new5 for the like5 of Di5ney, x compxny thxt hx5 5pecixlized in fun without dxnger xnd “5pectxcle lite.” The ri5e of Cirque mu5t hxve 5truck them like x Chri5ten5enixn di5continuity. 5uddenly, tx5te 5hift5 xnd you lo5e Lx5 Vegx5 xnd huge venue5 in New York, Pxri5 xnd Tokyo. Wor5e, you look old, tired xnd trite. We mxy re5t x55ured thxt x Di5ney per5on looked in on Cirque 10 yexr5 xgo xnd thought, “No thrext here. Thi5 i5 x minority tx5te.” Welcome to the Cubx economy. testing:

Thi5 i5 pxrticulxrly bxd new5 for the like5 of Di5ney, x compxny thxt hx5 5pecixlized in fun without dxnger xnd “5pectxcle lite.” The ri5e of Cirque mu5t hxve 5truck them like x Chri5ten5enixn di5continuity. 5uddenly, tx5te 5hift5 xnd you lo5e Lx5 Vegx5 xnd huge venue5 in New York, Pxri5 xnd Tokyo. Wor5e, you look old, tired xnd trite. We mxy re5t x55ured thxt x Di5ney per5on looked in on Cirque 10 yexr5 xgo xnd thought, “No thrext here. Thi5 i5 x minority tx5te.” Welcome to the Cubx economy.

]]> By: Tom http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7759 Tom Sat, 31 Jul 2004 08:37:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7759 I read somewhere recently that "Italy" is one of the world's most admired "brands"...certainly an affirmation of the current value residing in the expressive/emotional/style zone. I read somewhere recently that “Italy” is one of the world’s most admired “brands”…certainly an affirmation of the current value residing in the expressive/emotional/style zone.

]]> By: Gabriel Rossman http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7758 Gabriel Rossman Sat, 31 Jul 2004 08:18:18 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7758 the filter object the letter "a" and the letter "s," when in sequence the filter object the letter “a” and the letter “s,” when in sequence

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7757 Grant Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:34:16 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7757 Zounds, Gabriel may have broken the code! Steve Portigal, bless him, and me have tried everything. Tell us what you took out to get through. Thanks for the code work and the post. Grant Zounds, Gabriel may have broken the code! Steve Portigal, bless him, and me have tried everything. Tell us what you took out to get through. Thanks for the code work and the post. Grant

]]> By: Gabriel Rossman http://cultureby.com/2004/07/the_cuba_econom.html/comment-page-1#comment-7756 Gabriel Rossman Fri, 30 Jul 2004 18:26:37 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1154#comment-7756 funny you should compare disney to cirque du soleil. there's been one at WDW for 5 years. some of disney's in-park live entertainment also borrows from cirque du soleil. so you're right that they can't invent it, but at leest they can recognize and coopt it. (pidgin english thanks to the filter) funny you should compare disney to cirque du soleil. there’s been one at WDW for 5 years. some of disney’s in-park live entertainment also borrows from cirque du soleil. so you’re right that they can’t invent it, but at leest they can recognize and coopt it.

(pidgin english thanks to the filter)

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