Comments on: Dynamism panic? http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html This Blog Sits At the Intersection of Anthropology and Economics Thu, 17 May 2012 21:10:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: free government grants http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7444 free government grants Sun, 09 Jan 2005 08:35:04 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7444 thank you, i just wanted to give a greeting and tell you i like your website. <p><a href="http://government-grants.org" rel="nofollow">free government grants</a></p> thank you, i just wanted to give a greeting and tell you i like your website.

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]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7443 Grant Thu, 02 Sep 2004 13:35:51 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7443 Kevin, good quote and well said. Thanks, Grant Kevin, good quote and well said. Thanks, Grant

]]> By: kevrob http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7442 kevrob Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:19:24 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7442 This "panic" has been around for a while. <i>"...if NATIONAL REVIEW is superfluous, it is so for very different reasons: It stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it."</i> <b>National Review</b>, Publisher's Statement, William F. Buckley, Jr., November 19, 1955. The courts have been messing with the public's head for a lot longer than <i>Roe.</i> The statement above was contemporary to the rise of the Warren SCOTUS. Then there were the people, like the lady in the Thurber story, who were afraid that electricity would leak out of the outlets and zap her. Before her were the jokers who yelled "get a horse." I think some may go "zero to panic" faster nowadays, in no small part due to media penetration. Kevin This “panic” has been around for a while. “…if NATIONAL REVIEW is superfluous, it is so for very different reasons: It stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so, or to have much patience with those who so urge it.” National Review, Publisher’s Statement, William F. Buckley, Jr., November 19, 1955.

The courts have been messing with the public’s head for a lot longer than Roe. The statement above was contemporary to the rise of the Warren SCOTUS.

Then there were the people, like the lady in the Thurber story, who were afraid that electricity would leak out of the outlets and zap her. Before her were the jokers who yelled “get a horse.”

I think some may go “zero to panic” faster nowadays, in no small part due to media penetration.

Kevin

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7441 Grant Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:53:52 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7441 Liz, I am sure there are doctrinal subtleties I'm missing, and social ones as well. But it feels like this is an issue that the Church, however we define it, is just going to learn to accept. It has accomodated on many, many points, and, again, if it doesn't, we can expect the faithful to move on and start something new. Not sure this is much help. But thanks for this and other comments, one of which helped form the next day's post. Best, Grant Liz, I am sure there are doctrinal subtleties I’m missing, and social ones as well. But it feels like this is an issue that the Church, however we define it, is just going to learn to accept. It has accomodated on many, many points, and, again, if it doesn’t, we can expect the faithful to move on and start something new. Not sure this is much help. But thanks for this and other comments, one of which helped form the next day’s post. Best, Grant

]]> By: Grubbykid.com :: Links http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7445 Grubbykid.com :: Links Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:17:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7445 <strong>People tend to project disgust properties onto groups of people in their own society who come to figure as surrogates for people’s anxieties about their own animality. Such irrational projections have been involved in anti-Semitism, misogyny, traditional</strong> People tend to project disgust properties onto groups of people in their own society who come to figure as surrogates for people’s anxieties about their own animality. Such irrational projections have been involved in anti-Semitism, misogyny, tradition... People tend to project disgust properties onto groups of people in their own society who come to figure as surrogates for people’s anxieties about their own animality. Such irrational projections have been involved in anti-Semitism, misogyny, traditional

People tend to project disgust properties onto groups of people in their own society who come to figure as surrogates for people’s anxieties about their own animality. Such irrational projections have been involved in anti-Semitism, misogyny, tradition…

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7440 Grant Mon, 30 Aug 2004 17:33:44 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7440 What a good eye you have. Guilty as charged, I'm sure. I might resist this attribution but then you'd just say I was resisting. Thanks, Grant Thanks, Grant p.s., I am changing the text in question, but leaving Patrick's comment that all might see. What a good eye you have. Guilty as charged, I’m sure. I might resist this attribution but then you’d just say I was resisting. Thanks, Grant
Thanks, Grant
p.s., I am changing the text in question, but leaving Patrick’s comment that all might see.

]]> By: patrick http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7439 patrick Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:40:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7439 "Martha Nussbaum, professor of law and ethnics..." Freudian slip? “Martha Nussbaum, professor of law and ethnics…” Freudian slip?

]]> By: Joe Grossberg http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7438 Joe Grossberg Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:27:31 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7438 "Virginia Postrel recently implied that family values and gay marriage are not incompatible." She should find solace in the fact that, not long ago, it was similarly outrageous to say interracial marriage was compatible with family values. “Virginia Postrel recently implied that family values and gay marriage are not incompatible.”

She should find solace in the fact that, not long ago, it was similarly outrageous to say interracial marriage was compatible with family values.

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7437 Grant Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:01:38 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7437 Gabriel, Oh, good, the anthropologist misses the most salient cultural "actor," in this case the courts. Thanks for the correction. Best, Grant Gabriel, Oh, good, the anthropologist misses the most salient cultural “actor,” in this case the courts. Thanks for the correction. Best, Grant

]]> By: Gabriel Rossman http://cultureby.com/2004/08/dynamism_panic.html/comment-page-1#comment-7436 Gabriel Rossman Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:40:09 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1130#comment-7436 Grant, I agree with your three explanations but I would suggest a fourth, the institutional locus of the push. That gay marriage has largely come through the courts -- the political institution most loosely coupled to elections -- makes it seem like an imposition. There is a strong "I'm not asking" aspect to this choice of venues that almost inevitably breeds resentment. This is especially a sore spot for social conservatives who have done alright in legislatures and referenda (from the defeat of ERA to the passage of all the federal and state anti-gay marriage legislation of the last 6 years) but they've been getting a severe beating from the courts for at least the 30 years since Roe. Whenever a state legislature proposes, or even votes in, domestic partnership registration or something ike that, there's hardly a cultural ripple. In contrast, whenever a court rules in favor of gay marriage, the opinion polls register that the movement becomes more unpopular. Basically, I think that opposition to gay marriage has at least as much to do with resentment of judicial activism as it does with distaste for homosexuality or fear of marriage's fragility. Talk about an emanating penumbra, strict constructionism, or the sweet mysteries of human life, is total gibberish to the broad middle, but to the base on both sides this is the single most important issue in Senate and Presidential elections, at least in peace-time. Gabriel Grant,

I agree with your three explanations but I would suggest a fourth, the institutional locus of the push. That gay marriage has largely come through the courts — the political institution most loosely coupled to elections — makes it seem like an imposition. There is a strong “I’m not asking” aspect to this choice of venues that almost inevitably breeds resentment. This is especially a sore spot for social conservatives who have done alright in legislatures and referenda (from the defeat of ERA to the passage of all the federal and state anti-gay marriage legislation of the last 6 years) but they’ve been getting a severe beating from the courts for at least the 30 years since Roe. Whenever a state legislature proposes, or even votes in, domestic partnership registration or something ike that, there’s hardly a cultural ripple. In contrast, whenever a court rules in favor of gay marriage, the opinion polls register that the movement becomes more unpopular. Basically, I think that opposition to gay marriage has at least as much to do with resentment of judicial activism as it does with distaste for homosexuality or fear of marriage’s fragility. Talk about an emanating penumbra, strict constructionism, or the sweet mysteries of human life, is total gibberish to the broad middle, but to the base on both sides this is the single most important issue in Senate and Presidential elections, at least in peace-time.

Gabriel

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