Comments on: More on gaze economies http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html This Blog Sits At the Intersection of Anthropology and Economics Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:43:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: prashanth http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7611 prashanth Tue, 15 May 2007 03:23:59 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7611 What fouroboros has posted?Are those gestures displayed by the one whom i look at or i do while looking at someone?How authentic the meaning behind these gestures is?Is it same or applicable to other countries or at all places What fouroboros has posted?Are those gestures displayed by the one whom i look at or i do while looking at someone?How authentic the meaning behind these gestures is?Is it same or applicable to other countries or at all places

]]> By: Grant http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7610 Grant Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:41:17 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7610 Baird Brown, Money can buy them. Plastic surgery, the latest fashion, a really good hair cut... Thanks, Grant Baird Brown, Money can buy them. Plastic surgery, the latest fashion, a really good hair cut… Thanks, Grant

]]> By: Baird Brown http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7609 Baird Brown Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:50:12 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7609 Was just introduced by a friend - Susan Snider - have enjoyed it greatly. Wondered why you called gazes an economy? Like puka shells, money can't buy it. Like everything else in culture importance arises from collective judgement. (But so do the economist's "preferences," which is why they are so clueless.) You chose a variety of fairly hierarchical venues. There are other venues that are flatter and where the underlying "currencies" are different. Was just introduced by a friend – Susan Snider – have enjoyed it greatly.

Wondered why you called gazes an economy? Like puka shells, money can’t buy it. Like everything else in culture importance arises from collective judgement. (But so do the economist’s “preferences,” which is why they are so clueless.) You chose a variety of fairly hierarchical venues. There are other venues that are flatter and where the underlying “currencies” are different.

]]> By: Amphitheater Senftenberg http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7608 Amphitheater Senftenberg Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:18:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7608 <a href="http://tickets.gelago.de/cat3034/Konzerte/Jazz-Blues/Amphitheater-Senftenberg/" rel="nofollow">Amphitheater Senftenberg</a> http://tickets.gelago.de/cat3034/Konzerte/Jazz-Blues/Amphitheater-Senftenberg/ Amphitheater Senftenberg http://tickets.gelago.de/cat3034/Konzerte/Jazz-Blues/Amphitheater-Senftenberg/

]]> By: Ennis http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7607 Ennis Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:19:00 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7607 Grant: is there a difference between attention and approbation? Between a stare and a gaze? Is attention a partial good, which is why teenagers do audacious things, because notoriety is erzatz popularity? Is this why people go on talk shows -- to be regarded? I've got more thoughts on the subject, but I'll stop here for now. Grant: is there a difference between attention and approbation? Between a stare and a gaze? Is attention a partial good, which is why teenagers do audacious things, because notoriety is erzatz popularity? Is this why people go on talk shows — to be regarded?

I’ve got more thoughts on the subject, but I’ll stop here for now.

]]> By: fouroboros http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7606 fouroboros Tue, 24 Aug 2004 17:33:33 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7606 Great thread, Grant. Makes me want to go read some Wharton or <a href="http://www.victorianliving.com/resources/Customs/fan_language.asp" rel="nofollow">something</a>...<blockquote>* Carrying it in the left hand: desirous of an acquaintance * Carrying it in the right hand: you are too willing * Carrying it in the right hand in front of the face: follow me * Closing it: I wish to speak to you * Drawing it across the cheek: I love you * Drawing it across the eyes: I am sorry * Drawing it across the forehead: we are being watched * Drawing it through the hand: I hate you * Dropping it: we will be friends * Fan with the left hand in front of the face: leave me * Fanning fast: I am engaged * Fanning slow: I am married * Letting it rest on the left cheek: no * Letting it rest on the right cheek: yes * Open and shut: you are cruel * Open wide: wait for me * Placing it on the right ear: you have changed * Shut: I have changed * Twirling it on the left hand: I love another * With handle to the lips: kiss me </blockquote>Now, if only I could figure out what a full Kate Spade tote to the groin means. Greg.... "Collateral Gaze. The "Gazebo Effect"? I love it. My wife is stupefied when I mention this concept to her when we walk malls, etc. After 15 years, I believe her when she says she doesn't notice. Guess that makes her a 2. If so, maybe that makes my 0.5 a 0.75? Probably not. I'll keep saving for the Viper and some Puka Beads. Great thread, Grant. Makes me want to go read some Wharton or something…
* Carrying it in the left hand: desirous of an acquaintance
* Carrying it in the right hand: you are too willing
* Carrying it in the right hand in front of the face: follow me
* Closing it: I wish to speak to you
* Drawing it across the cheek: I love you
* Drawing it across the eyes: I am sorry
* Drawing it across the forehead: we are being watched
* Drawing it through the hand: I hate you
* Dropping it: we will be friends
* Fan with the left hand in front of the face: leave me
* Fanning fast: I am engaged
* Fanning slow: I am married
* Letting it rest on the left cheek: no
* Letting it rest on the right cheek: yes
* Open and shut: you are cruel
* Open wide: wait for me
* Placing it on the right ear: you have changed
* Shut: I have changed
* Twirling it on the left hand: I love another
* With handle to the lips: kiss me

Now, if only I could figure out what a full Kate Spade tote to the groin means.

Greg….

“Collateral Gaze. The “Gazebo Effect”?

I love it. My wife is stupefied when I mention this concept to her when we walk malls, etc. After 15 years, I believe her when she says she doesn’t notice. Guess that makes her a 2. If so, maybe that makes my 0.5 a 0.75? Probably not. I’ll keep saving for the Viper and some Puka Beads.

]]> By: LK http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7605 LK Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:47:30 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7605 so does this mean that loudmouth US talk radio host tom leykis (www.blowmeuptom.com) is right? his big thing is that the male/female dynamic can be reduced to the following: women get the richest, most powerful men their looks can buy them, and men got the most beautiful women their money/power can purchase. i hate to think he's right, but... so does this mean that loudmouth US talk radio host tom leykis (www.blowmeuptom.com) is right? his big thing is that the male/female dynamic can be reduced to the following: women get the richest, most powerful men their looks can buy them, and men got the most beautiful women their money/power can purchase. i hate to think he’s right, but…

]]> By: greg http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7604 greg Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:18:18 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7604 there is also the gazes that one's partner receives when walking along, that seem to boost confidence as the partner's 'gaze value' increases... nothing like making the neighbourhood jealous. there is also the gazes that one’s partner receives when walking along, that seem to boost confidence as the partner’s ‘gaze value’ increases… nothing like making the neighbourhood jealous.

]]> By: LK http://cultureby.com/2004/08/more_on_gaze_ec.html/comment-page-1#comment-7603 LK Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:30:01 +0000 http://localhost/wp_culture/?p=1135#comment-7603 hi grant and blogreaders LK = the leora grant referred to in this post, and i guess that now i'm totally outed as substandard gaze recipient. a few things occurred to me reading this...maybe the gazes we get are the market speaking to us. we may think we're in a certain league when in fact we're in altogether different one. and how would we know, i.e. be able to get outside of our own valuation, without the chorus of gazes. additionally, my hunch is that the gay gaze is different from the hetero gaze (gay readers please chime in here) in that with the gay male gaze i get the distinct feeling there's an implied 'high turnover'. certainly this is the case with some hetero gaze trading but outside the contingent of the ravenous samantha jones of sex and the city i suspect the majority of women are looking for more from their male gaze givers. hi grant and blogreaders

LK = the leora grant referred to in this post, and i guess that
now i’m totally outed as substandard gaze recipient. a few things occurred to me reading this…maybe the gazes we get are the market speaking to us. we may think we’re in a certain league when in fact we’re in altogether different one. and how would we know, i.e. be able to get outside of our own valuation, without the chorus of gazes.

additionally, my hunch is that the gay gaze is different from the hetero gaze (gay readers please chime in here) in that with the gay male gaze i get the distinct feeling there’s an implied ‘high turnover’. certainly this is the case with some hetero gaze trading but outside the contingent of the ravenous samantha jones of sex and the city i suspect the majority of women are looking for more from their male gaze givers.

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