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	<title>Comments on: Death by committee</title>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/04/death_by_commit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6564</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was on the board of directors for a youth theatre group for a couple of years. Our chairman was a former public television administrator. Nothing, and I mean _nothing_ got decided in only one meeting. Everything had to &quot;marinate&quot; for at least a couple of meetings before he&#039;d get around to allowing any action to be taken.
It got to the point that anyone on the board pushing for a decision or action on a pending item was rewarded with that particlar item being referred to a subcommittee (chaired, always, by the board chairman) from which it would rarely ever emerge.
He left the board six months after I gave up in disgust. The new board chair doesn&#039;t have a background in the public sector: things are getting done now - she makes sure of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was on the board of directors for a youth theatre group for a couple of years. Our chairman was a former public television administrator. Nothing, and I mean _nothing_ got decided in only one meeting. Everything had to &#8220;marinate&#8221; for at least a couple of meetings before he&#8217;d get around to allowing any action to be taken.</p>
<p>It got to the point that anyone on the board pushing for a decision or action on a pending item was rewarded with that particlar item being referred to a subcommittee (chaired, always, by the board chairman) from which it would rarely ever emerge.</p>
<p>He left the board six months after I gave up in disgust. The new board chair doesn&#8217;t have a background in the public sector: things are getting done now &#8211; she makes sure of it.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/04/death_by_commit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6563</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to Grant&#039;s excellent analysis of expressive individualism in NFPs, the lack of clear and measurable output goals inherent in many NFP missions promotes the substitution of ritual for instrumental action. We can&#039;t be sure if we&#039;re doing anything useful in a big-picture sense, but deciding on personnel is a concrete task. It reminds me of Parkinson&#039;s law for finance committees, that they spend most of their time debating trivial expenditures they can understand, rather than massive investments beyond their comprehension.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to Grant&#8217;s excellent analysis of expressive individualism in NFPs, the lack of clear and measurable output goals inherent in many NFP missions promotes the substitution of ritual for instrumental action. We can&#8217;t be sure if we&#8217;re doing anything useful in a big-picture sense, but deciding on personnel is a concrete task. It reminds me of Parkinson&#8217;s law for finance committees, that they spend most of their time debating trivial expenditures they can understand, rather than massive investments beyond their comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/04/death_by_commit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6562</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 01:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she has a &quot;boss&quot;, then why is there this need for universal participation to the detriment of the enterprise (and by extension to the _goals_ of the enterprise...which presumably are why all those folks work there to begin with)? I mean, that&#039;s what managers are _for_.
I&#039;m not necessarily advocating the 100% meeting-free culture dreamed of by the target demographic for Dilbert books...I&#039;ve worked in companies run that way and it&#039;s not the utopia it might seem. But whether one is in a for-profit business, a NFP organization, or a nonprofit charity, the entity one works for is going to have some sort of primary mission...and that mission is unlikely to be &quot;making personnel policy decisions&quot;. Whether your mission is curing disease, teaching children, feeding the hungry...or just earning good returns for your investors, time spent in avoidable meetings is time _not_ spent accomplishing that mission.
One would think that NFP/NP workers would care MORE about that lost opportunity than folks working for some profit-oriented corporation who just want to take a paycheck home every week.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she has a &#8220;boss&#8221;, then why is there this need for universal participation to the detriment of the enterprise (and by extension to the _goals_ of the enterprise&#8230;which presumably are why all those folks work there to begin with)? I mean, that&#8217;s what managers are _for_.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not necessarily advocating the 100% meeting-free culture dreamed of by the target demographic for Dilbert books&#8230;I&#8217;ve worked in companies run that way and it&#8217;s not the utopia it might seem. But whether one is in a for-profit business, a NFP organization, or a nonprofit charity, the entity one works for is going to have some sort of primary mission&#8230;and that mission is unlikely to be &#8220;making personnel policy decisions&#8221;. Whether your mission is curing disease, teaching children, feeding the hungry&#8230;or just earning good returns for your investors, time spent in avoidable meetings is time _not_ spent accomplishing that mission.</p>
<p>One would think that NFP/NP workers would care MORE about that lost opportunity than folks working for some profit-oriented corporation who just want to take a paycheck home every week.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/04/death_by_commit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6561</link>
		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2005 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve been involved with an educational NFP startup, and the &lt;em&gt;policy&lt;/em&gt; development -- the applying our principles &amp; mission to hypotheticals -- did take forever-and-a-day (that is a formulation from fairytales, btw), but once in place, the execution of policy was not quite as fast as FP, but danged close.
&quot;Admit this one?&quot; &quot;Nope, doesn&#039;t qualify&quot;; &quot;admit that one?&quot; &quot;Ehh...let&#039;s wait to see who else is in the pile.&quot;
Of course, we are in the Silicon Valley...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve been involved with an educational NFP startup, and the <em>policy</em> development &#8212; the applying our principles &#038; mission to hypotheticals &#8212; did take forever-and-a-day (that is a formulation from fairytales, btw), but once in place, the execution of policy was not quite as fast as FP, but danged close.</p>
<p>&#8220;Admit this one?&#8221; &#8220;Nope, doesn&#8217;t qualify&#8221;; &#8220;admit that one?&#8221; &#8220;Ehh&#8230;let&#8217;s wait to see who else is in the pile.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, we are in the Silicon Valley&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dilys</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/04/death_by_commit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6560</link>
		<dc:creator>dilys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve reached near tinfoil-hat levels as to my  certainty that the key is Myers Briggs &lt;em&gt;Feelers&lt;/em&gt; in NFP&#039;s and &lt;em&gt;Thinkers&lt;/em&gt; in FP management, at least, and that never the twain shall meet.
And in those terms, you&#039;re especially correct.  Feelers that run amok with the resources, including time, forfeit their credibility to Thinkers, and thus contribute to the imbalance, the lack of &quot;conscious business,&quot; that they lament with such pathos.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve reached near tinfoil-hat levels as to my  certainty that the key is Myers Briggs <em>Feelers</em> in NFP&#8217;s and <em>Thinkers</em> in FP management, at least, and that never the twain shall meet.</p>
<p>And in those terms, you&#8217;re especially correct.  Feelers that run amok with the resources, including time, forfeit their credibility to Thinkers, and thus contribute to the imbalance, the lack of &#8220;conscious business,&#8221; that they lament with such pathos.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Guarriello</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/04/death_by_commit.html/comment-page-1#comment-6559</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Guarriello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 20:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived (and &quot;led&quot;) in the NFP world for 17 years, Grant, and you describe well the expressive flavor of individualism that&#039;s dominant there. As in kabuki, symbolic theatrics dominate most interactions. The rituals and symbols are primarily focused on encouraging participation (gathering, &quot;input&quot;) and helping the vanquished save face. Effectiveness and/or efficiency are rarely addressed.
An friend of mine from academia once quipped (in a line he probably stole from someone), &quot;Do you know why the politics in universities are so dirty? Because the stakes are so low.&quot; That&#039;s certainly true for NFPs as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived (and &#8220;led&#8221;) in the NFP world for 17 years, Grant, and you describe well the expressive flavor of individualism that&#8217;s dominant there. As in kabuki, symbolic theatrics dominate most interactions. The rituals and symbols are primarily focused on encouraging participation (gathering, &#8220;input&#8221;) and helping the vanquished save face. Effectiveness and/or efficiency are rarely addressed.</p>
<p>An friend of mine from academia once quipped (in a line he probably stole from someone), &#8220;Do you know why the politics in universities are so dirty? Because the stakes are so low.&#8221; That&#8217;s certainly true for NFPs as well.</p>
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