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		<title>By: Mary Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2005/12/transmedia_bran_2.html/comment-page-1#comment-5057</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmmm...and here we are again, gathered around the campfire waiting for wise ones to tell us a story.  Of course, these days the &quot;fire&quot; is the light of the television and the stories are about much more than why lightening comes from above or it&#039;s really not a good idea to poke even a baby wooly mammoth with a stick. (Oops, there goes the old liberal arts/sociology major who&#039;s read more books than is probably healthy for any one person.)  All comes down to - as illustrated above in this string - we humans love a story and we remember images much better (and with feeling) if there&#039;s an interesting story attached. I actually used to rather look forward to the next Folger&#039;s commercial.  But, I never bought the coffee.  So, does creative story-telling reinforce a brand?  Yes.  Does it help sell more product?  Hmmm...  &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;and here we are again, gathered around the campfire waiting for wise ones to tell us a story.  Of course, these days the &quot;fire&quot; is the light of the television and the stories are about much more than why lightening comes from above or it&#39;s really not a good idea to poke even a baby wooly mammoth with a stick. (Oops, there goes the old liberal arts/sociology major who&#39;s read more books than is probably healthy for any one person.)  All comes down to &#8211; as illustrated above in this string &#8211; we humans love a story and we remember images much better (and with feeling) if there&#39;s an interesting story attached. I actually used to rather look forward to the next Folger&#39;s commercial.  But, I never bought the coffee.  So, does creative story-telling reinforce a brand?  Yes.  Does it help sell more product?  Hmmm&#8230;  </p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Henry, you and Steve have suggested the potential value of generality, and I get the point of this argument, but I am inclined to think that if we want the brand narrative to attract real talent we must allow for specification, and indeed, I think the interesting brands might issue from the richochet between different narrative threads.  Which is to say we can profit from specificity as long as we encourage lots of specifities.  It&#039;s the multiplicity thing, again.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, yes, that Folgers ad returns to usefulness as a precedent, doesn&#039;t it?  Interesting.  I don&#039;t know that this ever got written up.  It was kind of like showing the soap operaa inside the ad.  What it did for consumers, whether they would participate in the construction of narrative(s), these are interesting ethnographic questions!  Thanks, Grant&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry, you and Steve have suggested the potential value of generality, and I get the point of this argument, but I am inclined to think that if we want the brand narrative to attract real talent we must allow for specification, and indeed, I think the interesting brands might issue from the richochet between different narrative threads.  Which is to say we can profit from specificity as long as we encourage lots of specifities.  It&#39;s the multiplicity thing, again.  </p>
<p>And, yes, that Folgers ad returns to usefulness as a precedent, doesn&#39;t it?  Interesting.  I don&#39;t know that this ever got written up.  It was kind of like showing the soap operaa inside the ad.  What it did for consumers, whether they would participate in the construction of narrative(s), these are interesting ethnographic questions!  Thanks, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A few more potential examples, Grant:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1. The BMW films project has extended into a BMW comics series, also called The Hire. As with the films, it involves top name tallents who push the character and his story in different directions. To what degree is it important that the Driver be emptied of extensive characterization and be adaptable to so many different narrative contexts? This seems like the opposite of your Mr. Clean example where you overspecified his past until he fit logically within a single genre.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2. The old Folger Coffee serialized commercials, which featured Anthony Head, who went on to play Giles on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Here we had a story which unfolded across a number of commercial installments -- following a fairly simple genre -- the romantic comedy. Could you imagine extending that outward into some kind of epistelary fiction? a series of love letters between the two in print or on the web, which come complete with coffee stains? Perhaps even some kind of game where the goal is help true love win out and good coffee taste find an appreciating consumer.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more potential examples, Grant:</p>
<p>1. The BMW films project has extended into a BMW comics series, also called The Hire. As with the films, it involves top name tallents who push the character and his story in different directions. To what degree is it important that the Driver be emptied of extensive characterization and be adaptable to so many different narrative contexts? This seems like the opposite of your Mr. Clean example where you overspecified his past until he fit logically within a single genre.</p>
<p>2. The old Folger Coffee serialized commercials, which featured Anthony Head, who went on to play Giles on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Here we had a story which unfolded across a number of commercial installments &#8212; following a fairly simple genre &#8212; the romantic comedy. Could you imagine extending that outward into some kind of epistelary fiction? a series of love letters between the two in print or on the web, which come complete with coffee stains? Perhaps even some kind of game where the goal is help true love win out and good coffee taste find an appreciating consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jens, I wasn&#039;t aware of these other opportunities for outsiders to contribute to the BMW brand.  Thanks.  It&#039;s not clear that a narrative is advanced.  But as Steve was pointing out, less narrative might be more.  Also, isn&#039;t odd how many of the things undertaken by the brand that once looked tangential (sponsoring art exhibits in NYC) and looked as if they were probably inspired by the CEO&#039;s significant other, actually begin, from a transmedia point of view, to make more sense.  Thanks, Grant&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens, I wasn&#39;t aware of these other opportunities for outsiders to contribute to the BMW brand.  Thanks.  It&#39;s not clear that a narrative is advanced.  But as Steve was pointing out, less narrative might be more.  Also, isn&#39;t odd how many of the things undertaken by the brand that once looked tangential (sponsoring art exhibits in NYC) and looked as if they were probably inspired by the CEO&#39;s significant other, actually begin, from a transmedia point of view, to make more sense.  Thanks, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: Jens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;bmw comes to my mind too, but not only because of the films.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;in general i also have the feeling that brands that are driven by a product (bmw, porsche, apple, boogaboo...) - or even more: all brands that are driven by *experiencing them* (to experience the buying qualities of a discounter for example, because this discounter manages to surprise you with damn useful products for a super reasonable price again and again..) kind of work in the narrative transmedia way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;bmw though is a super interesting example, because the brand got a massive spin in the last couple of years by giving people the responsibility and in a good extend the freedom to create the brand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;think of bmw architecture. all around the world they have extremely well known - and mostly extremely eccentric - architects building their factories and showrooms. (ok - prada does that too)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;or for example think of there art installations and art events that accompany the big car fairs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;or think of the bmw art car - an already quite traditional concept of having an artist coloring a one-of piece.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and so on and so on and so on...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and - of course - think of bmw design. controversial, provocative, unique and - yes - daring.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;bmw may not build the most beautiful cars - but they build the most daring ones. - because they let their people do the work. - according to the head of bmw design their goal is to create vintage cars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;and at this point bmw&#039;s old corporate philosophy of giving good people responsibility and the freedom to create pays off quite well - id say.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the result is: you look at a brand that supports the arts, has great architects building for them and product designers who do not listen too much to market research. the result: you see a company that is daring. one of these true old time companies with guts, a smile and a focus. (not only investment portfolios.) and that then is a wonderful transmedia sensation. created together with common focus and individual freedom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;sounds a little bit like a vision for a better world.&lt;br /&gt;
sounds like this is exactly what the markets want today.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmw comes to my mind too, but not only because of the films.</p>
<p>in general i also have the feeling that brands that are driven by a product (bmw, porsche, apple, boogaboo&#8230;) &#8211; or even more: all brands that are driven by *experiencing them* (to experience the buying qualities of a discounter for example, because this discounter manages to surprise you with damn useful products for a super reasonable price again and again..) kind of work in the narrative transmedia way.</p>
<p>bmw though is a super interesting example, because the brand got a massive spin in the last couple of years by giving people the responsibility and in a good extend the freedom to create the brand.</p>
<p>think of bmw architecture. all around the world they have extremely well known &#8211; and mostly extremely eccentric &#8211; architects building their factories and showrooms. (ok &#8211; prada does that too)</p>
<p>or for example think of there art installations and art events that accompany the big car fairs.</p>
<p>or think of the bmw art car &#8211; an already quite traditional concept of having an artist coloring a one-of piece.</p>
<p>and so on and so on and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>and &#8211; of course &#8211; think of bmw design. controversial, provocative, unique and &#8211; yes &#8211; daring.</p>
<p>bmw may not build the most beautiful cars &#8211; but they build the most daring ones. &#8211; because they let their people do the work. &#8211; according to the head of bmw design their goal is to create vintage cars.</p>
<p>and at this point bmw&#39;s old corporate philosophy of giving good people responsibility and the freedom to create pays off quite well &#8211; id say.</p>
<p>the result is: you look at a brand that supports the arts, has great architects building for them and product designers who do not listen too much to market research. the result: you see a company that is daring. one of these true old time companies with guts, a smile and a focus. (not only investment portfolios.) and that then is a wonderful transmedia sensation. created together with common focus and individual freedom.</p>
<p>sounds a little bit like a vision for a better world.<br />
sounds like this is exactly what the markets want today.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steve, very good question, and now that I think of it, very good point.  And your last question is key.  I believe I had a colleague at HBS who taught the BMW films venture as a case, and I believe he says that that in fact the demographics of the website visitor, film viewer did not match well with the BMW crowd, but let me check.  Thanks, Grant&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, very good question, and now that I think of it, very good point.  And your last question is key.  I believe I had a colleague at HBS who taught the BMW films venture as a case, and I believe he says that that in fact the demographics of the website visitor, film viewer did not match well with the BMW crowd, but let me check.  Thanks, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do you think the BMW films venture was an example of what you&#039;re talking about? They used real film directors to make short films about BMWs (some pretty good ones in there). Undoubtedly, some sort of editorial filter was involved, explicitly or implicitly--none of the films show the Beemer breaking down or symbolizing snobbery--but it looks a bit transmedia-is. Next question--does it help sell cars?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think the BMW films venture was an example of what you&#39;re talking about? They used real film directors to make short films about BMWs (some pretty good ones in there). Undoubtedly, some sort of editorial filter was involved, explicitly or implicitly&#8211;none of the films show the Beemer breaking down or symbolizing snobbery&#8211;but it looks a bit transmedia-is. Next question&#8211;does it help sell cars?</p>
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