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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If it runs OSX and has a non-counterfeit Apple logo on it, it&#039;s still a Mac. If it runs Windoze it&#039;s a PC. And if it runs any non-OSX unix (such as Linux), it&#039;s a workstation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The definition of &quot;PC&quot; used to be set by IBM. Now it&#039;s set by Microsoft. It never has been and never will be a creature of Intel. (As evidenced by the fact that many PCs don&#039;t have a speck of Intel in them anywhere, since they run AMD processors.) And so slapping an Intel chip in something doesn&#039;t make it a PC.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mac lovers will still continue to buy Apple&#039;s massively overpriced hardware in order to get the pleasure of running the best end-user operating system ever designed. I suspect very few will really care who makes the CPU, once the change stops being news.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(And no, BTW...&quot;PowerBook&quot; is not named after the chip. Mac laptops were called &quot;PowerBooks&quot; long before the PowerPC chips. The very first laptop I actually used for an extended period was a 68000-based PowerBook that I rented in order to stay online while I was in the hospital after surgery. IIRC I was 14 at the time. But I know it was a PowerBook 100.)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it runs OSX and has a non-counterfeit Apple logo on it, it&#39;s still a Mac. If it runs Windoze it&#39;s a PC. And if it runs any non-OSX unix (such as Linux), it&#39;s a workstation.</p>
<p>The definition of &quot;PC&quot; used to be set by IBM. Now it&#39;s set by Microsoft. It never has been and never will be a creature of Intel. (As evidenced by the fact that many PCs don&#39;t have a speck of Intel in them anywhere, since they run AMD processors.) And so slapping an Intel chip in something doesn&#39;t make it a PC.</p>
<p>Mac lovers will still continue to buy Apple&#39;s massively overpriced hardware in order to get the pleasure of running the best end-user operating system ever designed. I suspect very few will really care who makes the CPU, once the change stops being news.</p>
<p>(And no, BTW&#8230;&quot;PowerBook&quot; is not named after the chip. Mac laptops were called &quot;PowerBooks&quot; long before the PowerPC chips. The very first laptop I actually used for an extended period was a 68000-based PowerBook that I rented in order to stay online while I was in the hospital after surgery. IIRC I was 14 at the time. But I know it was a PowerBook 100.)</p>
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		<title>By: David Sucher</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/01/branding_brilli.html/comment-page-1#comment-4850</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sucher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t see that the Intel chip will effect the Apple brand one way or the other. The Mac is superior because of its software and if the Apple people think that the Intel chip is the best chip, I am willing to go along until the facts prove otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The ability to (perhaps) use Windows software (such as Google Earth) on a Mac is a huge plus.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t see that the Intel chip will effect the Apple brand one way or the other. The Mac is superior because of its software and if the Apple people think that the Intel chip is the best chip, I am willing to go along until the facts prove otherwise.</p>
<p>The ability to (perhaps) use Windows software (such as Google Earth) on a Mac is a huge plus.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Asacker</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/01/branding_brilli.html/comment-page-1#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Asacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why choose Keiffer Sutherland? Because it would take the cunning and bravado of a Jack Bauer to liberate the chip from the dark forces of evil. ;)&lt;/p&gt;

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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As AJ pointed out, fanatical Mac users love the hardware AND the Mac OS, to differentiate those boxes from WinTel machines.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In my mind, Motorola&#039;s production of the motherboard processor, wasn&#039;t harmed a bit by Apple&#039;s early collaboration with IBM.  In fact, the modern Mac has much to owe to this partnership, specifically, the entire idea of the PowerPC (which was originally intended to cross between the Mac and PC worlds).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple&#039;s recent collaboration with Intel doesn&#039;t really give me pause.  When I fight with my brothers over who&#039;s machine is better (me on the Mac side, they on the WinTel side), we rarely fight about the processor.  Rather, the superiority battle always seems to be about which machine is better suited to the business user.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The introduction of the Intel chip doesn&#039;t immediately pose a threat to the Mac way of life (or business).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m more concerned that the lovable Apple icon on the start up screen will turn into a Princess Castle, with Tinkerbell flying gleefully overhead...&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As AJ pointed out, fanatical Mac users love the hardware AND the Mac OS, to differentiate those boxes from WinTel machines.</p>
<p>In my mind, Motorola&#39;s production of the motherboard processor, wasn&#39;t harmed a bit by Apple&#39;s early collaboration with IBM.  In fact, the modern Mac has much to owe to this partnership, specifically, the entire idea of the PowerPC (which was originally intended to cross between the Mac and PC worlds).</p>
<p>Apple&#39;s recent collaboration with Intel doesn&#39;t really give me pause.  When I fight with my brothers over who&#39;s machine is better (me on the Mac side, they on the WinTel side), we rarely fight about the processor.  Rather, the superiority battle always seems to be about which machine is better suited to the business user.</p>
<p>The introduction of the Intel chip doesn&#39;t immediately pose a threat to the Mac way of life (or business).</p>
<p>I&#39;m more concerned that the lovable Apple icon on the start up screen will turn into a Princess Castle, with Tinkerbell flying gleefully overhead&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jens</title>
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		<dc:creator>jens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 02:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wasn&#039;t the &quot;Power&quot; in PowerBook from &quot;Power&quot;PC chips... I&#039;m guessing that may have prompted the change FROM PowerBook... but I think AJ might be on target with the change TO MacBook. Perhaps Apple sees where things are going - as the specs on hardware become a non-issue, and design (both product and UI) is all that is left, Apple needs to work harder at promotion... and why not learn from what worked with the iPod?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Grant - re: Postal Service - certainly the agency is to blame, but I don&#039;t think Apple, as a client, can completely dodge the bullet. When you hire the agency, issue the brief, and approve the creative, you have to accept at least some of the blame. Let&#039;s pretend, though, that Apple was genuinely unaware of what was happening. (which, actually, is a good possibility -- with the super-secret nature of all of the MacWorld events, apparently few people saw the final ad prior to showing... in the past, I have heard that Steve is actually making final decisions on ads only days before MacWorld) Apple took some heat over the Eminem/Lugz commercial, but I think people generally gave them the benefit of the doubt. Twice, though, and it is a little harder to look past.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#39;t the &quot;Power&quot; in PowerBook from &quot;Power&quot;PC chips&#8230; I&#39;m guessing that may have prompted the change FROM PowerBook&#8230; but I think AJ might be on target with the change TO MacBook. Perhaps Apple sees where things are going &#8211; as the specs on hardware become a non-issue, and design (both product and UI) is all that is left, Apple needs to work harder at promotion&#8230; and why not learn from what worked with the iPod?</p>
<p>Grant &#8211; re: Postal Service &#8211; certainly the agency is to blame, but I don&#39;t think Apple, as a client, can completely dodge the bullet. When you hire the agency, issue the brief, and approve the creative, you have to accept at least some of the blame. Let&#39;s pretend, though, that Apple was genuinely unaware of what was happening. (which, actually, is a good possibility &#8212; with the super-secret nature of all of the MacWorld events, apparently few people saw the final ad prior to showing&#8230; in the past, I have heard that Steve is actually making final decisions on ads only days before MacWorld) Apple took some heat over the Eminem/Lugz commercial, but I think people generally gave them the benefit of the doubt. Twice, though, and it is a little harder to look past.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AJ, very interesting, and a very nice detection of a shift in strategy.  Thanks, Grant&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ, very interesting, and a very nice detection of a shift in strategy.  Thanks, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/01/branding_brilli.html/comment-page-1#comment-4844</link>
		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t watch 24, so I associate Kiefer Sutherland&#039;s voice with Ford ads (the same way his father Donald voices the ads for Volvo, partly owned by Ford).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is one other interesting things about this spot: it&#039;s the first Apple desktop commercial that isn&#039;t signed &quot;Apple&quot; but &quot;Mac,&quot; much in the same way the iPod ads are done. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems that Apple wants to push the &quot;Mac-ness&quot; of their computers over the particular chip or hardware platform it&#039;s running. The new Intel laptop is not a PowerBook - a word so culturally ingrained that it is almost generic - but a &quot;MacBook&quot;. In Apple&#039;s newly restated worldview, it isn&#039;t the chip that makes a computer a dull PC or an &quot;exciting&quot; Mac; it&#039;s the operating system.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t watch 24, so I associate Kiefer Sutherland&#39;s voice with Ford ads (the same way his father Donald voices the ads for Volvo, partly owned by Ford).</p>
<p>There is one other interesting things about this spot: it&#39;s the first Apple desktop commercial that isn&#39;t signed &quot;Apple&quot; but &quot;Mac,&quot; much in the same way the iPod ads are done. </p>
<p>It seems that Apple wants to push the &quot;Mac-ness&quot; of their computers over the particular chip or hardware platform it&#39;s running. The new Intel laptop is not a PowerBook &#8211; a word so culturally ingrained that it is almost generic &#8211; but a &quot;MacBook&quot;. In Apple&#39;s newly restated worldview, it isn&#39;t the chip that makes a computer a dull PC or an &quot;exciting&quot; Mac; it&#39;s the operating system.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Charles, good point, it&#039;s never a good idea to be seen to be pushing around one of the creators about whom you claim to care.  On the other hand, I assume this is the agency behaving badly, not the brand, and this could spell the end of the relationship between TBWA\Chiat\Day and Apple.  The latter really would have grounds for switching.  (I can&#039;t think what the agency was thinking.  And to put the entire account at risk for this economy...that really would be nuts.)  Thanks, Grant&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, good point, it&#39;s never a good idea to be seen to be pushing around one of the creators about whom you claim to care.  On the other hand, I assume this is the agency behaving badly, not the brand, and this could spell the end of the relationship between TBWA\Chiat\Day and Apple.  The latter really would have grounds for switching.  (I can&#39;t think what the agency was thinking.  And to put the entire account at risk for this economy&#8230;that really would be nuts.)  Thanks, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/01/branding_brilli.html/comment-page-1#comment-4842</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting... one of the first blog posts I have read to mention the ad without bringing up that it is a little too close to The Postal Service video for &quot;Such Great Heights&quot;... and that it was shot by the same folks...&lt;br /&gt;
It may be wonderful brand positioning in all of the ways that you suggest, but to so many people who see it now, (especially with some fairly popular music artists so enraged by this), the only lasting brand position is that Apple has stopped caring about the rights of creators right as they moved to Intel chips... not quite enough to make me want to switch to Windows, but it hurts to see Apple doing this. Anyone having any luck designing on Linux?&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230; one of the first blog posts I have read to mention the ad without bringing up that it is a little too close to The Postal Service video for &quot;Such Great Heights&quot;&#8230; and that it was shot by the same folks&#8230;<br />
It may be wonderful brand positioning in all of the ways that you suggest, but to so many people who see it now, (especially with some fairly popular music artists so enraged by this), the only lasting brand position is that Apple has stopped caring about the rights of creators right as they moved to Intel chips&#8230; not quite enough to make me want to switch to Windows, but it hurts to see Apple doing this. Anyone having any luck designing on Linux?</p>
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