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		<title>By: Candy Minx</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my god, Kitsilano don&#039;t know junt. I don&#039;t think they still do that now though, they are too busy lining up at Starbucks. I didn&#039;t know what this meant &quot;the lesson of all your base belong to us&quot; sorry...but I think what I liked most about this entry was that because of inexpensive and accessible products we are able to see how amazing folks are around the world. Um, also I am remeinded of how when it comes to astronomy and conservation these practices are good examples of how the dialogue betwee experts, academia and non-professionals but dedicated participants is so crucial. We have stars, animal patterns being observed by people who have the time and opportunity often not available to people busy writing papers, tenure seeking or teaching.
cheers hope y&#039;all have nice weather, its spring rain here in Chi-town
Candy
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my god, Kitsilano don&#8217;t know junt. I don&#8217;t think they still do that now though, they are too busy lining up at Starbucks. I didn&#8217;t know what this meant &#8220;the lesson of all your base belong to us&#8221; sorry&#8230;but I think what I liked most about this entry was that because of inexpensive and accessible products we are able to see how amazing folks are around the world. Um, also I am remeinded of how when it comes to astronomy and conservation these practices are good examples of how the dialogue betwee experts, academia and non-professionals but dedicated participants is so crucial. We have stars, animal patterns being observed by people who have the time and opportunity often not available to people busy writing papers, tenure seeking or teaching.</p>
<p>cheers hope y&#8217;all have nice weather, its spring rain here in Chi-town<br />
Candy</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 16:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candy Minx, thank you, excellent points, may I read into evidence the Kitsilano Show Boat, a Vancouver feature that invited people to make a spectacle of themselves on Wednesday evenings, and may still, for all I know.  It was amazingly bad.  Amateurs were amateur, in the most withering sense of that term.  We don&#039;t use that term very much any more bec. it is pejorative and doesn&#039;t apply.  So I think.  Is this not the lesson of all your base are belong to us, among other things.  But thanks.  Best, Grant
Ed, thanks very much for those details.  I remember looking at some of the Converse ads and thinking, wow, some of this is really good.  I&#039;m with you and Mr. Seeley.  Except of course that we don&#039;t need to teach this sort of thing in schools because people manage to learn it on their own.  So you could say we have even learned to learn with new sophistication.  What happened?  Floride, possibly?  Yes, that must be it.  Best, Grant
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candy Minx, thank you, excellent points, may I read into evidence the Kitsilano Show Boat, a Vancouver feature that invited people to make a spectacle of themselves on Wednesday evenings, and may still, for all I know.  It was amazingly bad.  Amateurs were amateur, in the most withering sense of that term.  We don&#8217;t use that term very much any more bec. it is pejorative and doesn&#8217;t apply.  So I think.  Is this not the lesson of all your base are belong to us, among other things.  But thanks.  Best, Grant</p>
<p>Ed, thanks very much for those details.  I remember looking at some of the Converse ads and thinking, wow, some of this is really good.  I&#8217;m with you and Mr. Seeley.  Except of course that we don&#8217;t need to teach this sort of thing in schools because people manage to learn it on their own.  So you could say we have even learned to learn with new sophistication.  What happened?  Floride, possibly?  Yes, that must be it.  Best, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: edward cotton</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 15:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant,
We received about 1600 entries after 18 months. More interesting was the geographic diversity- we&#039;ve gotten! films from Austria, Italy, South Africa and we thought early on it was going to be US only. This number is small compared to GM and Mastercard, but they invested heavily in promoting their efforts ATL. All our efforts were WOM and grassroots.
While on the subject. I remember a lecture from John Seely Brown (ex PARC) where he showed the class the most moving film he had ever seen- it was a 6 min short made by an American teenager who was distressed with ow much pressure her parents were putting on her to achieve good grades.
John&#039;s conclusion- filmaking is a new language and should be taught in all schools.
Cheers.
Ed
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant,</p>
<p>We received about 1600 entries after 18 months. More interesting was the geographic diversity- we&#8217;ve gotten! films from Austria, Italy, South Africa and we thought early on it was going to be US only. This number is small compared to GM and Mastercard, but they invested heavily in promoting their efforts ATL. All our efforts were WOM and grassroots.</p>
<p>While on the subject. I remember a lecture from John Seely Brown (ex PARC) where he showed the class the most moving film he had ever seen- it was a 6 min short made by an American teenager who was distressed with ow much pressure her parents were putting on her to achieve good grades.</p>
<p>John&#8217;s conclusion- filmaking is a new language and should be taught in all schools.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Candy Minx</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 15:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years ago...somewhere... Coppola said the future of film making will be a little girl with a home video recorder winningat Cannes. I&#039;m sure I murdered my paraphrase but he said something like that. How right he was.
The only problem is...and I hate to reprise my role of representing &quot;the coomon folk&quot; or &quot;regular folk&quot; or of which I am...but we always were talented! It&#039;s not that we suddenly got all talented one day. I&#039;ve been to endless weddings and almost all of them had wicked funny speeches(but then thats the national identity of Canadians, self depricating humour) No the human soul and experience makes each one of us intelligent and artistic. But we have had centuries of academia and caste systems that restricted voices. Technology tweaking has helped us regular folks come into the mainstream again. The most famous &quot;regular folk&quot; was perhaps Shaespeare and he was memorizing Ovid at nine years old ause children CAN and that used to be considered a good education. Now with reality tv shows like Survivor and Top Chef, we see how much intelligence(and folly ok...) there is in regular folks. But we&#039;ve seen this before the shock... of a Dolly Parton or 5oCent or Eminem coming from &quot;nothing&quot; and writing poetry and incredible lyrics. Web boards have exposed the myth of the &quot;layreader&quot; as another example. I&#039;ve participated for ten years on what began as a forum for profs and professionals who were fans of Cormac McCarthy. Often there was heated debates and resentment because of the internet the public and so-called layreaders were beginning to particpate and how could they possibly have a &quot;close reading&quot;. It took awahile but a slow mutual admiration society has built up between the &quot;experts&quot; and the non-professionals at that book forum.
What about the blues? And rock? Quintin Tarrantino?
No we were always here, just now we have our own cameras and venues.
I think maybe we&#039;ll see more and  more grass roots kind of feel in product making and in consummerism. I don&#039;t know, I&#039;m lousy at predicting the future but I can imagine that people will want to have a cache of something not mainstream...homespun, but not on the level of macrame or grannies knitted torture slippers...but in music and art. More and more people understand that it isn&#039;t institutionalized education or corporate beliefs that make one talented, or an &quot;expert&#039;. Those things sure don&#039;t guarantee making a living either. Anyone really can be a star.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago&#8230;somewhere&#8230; Coppola said the future of film making will be a little girl with a home video recorder winningat Cannes. I&#8217;m sure I murdered my paraphrase but he said something like that. How right he was.</p>
<p>The only problem is&#8230;and I hate to reprise my role of representing &#8220;the coomon folk&#8221; or &#8220;regular folk&#8221; or of which I am&#8230;but we always were talented! It&#8217;s not that we suddenly got all talented one day. I&#8217;ve been to endless weddings and almost all of them had wicked funny speeches(but then thats the national identity of Canadians, self depricating humour) No the human soul and experience makes each one of us intelligent and artistic. But we have had centuries of academia and caste systems that restricted voices. Technology tweaking has helped us regular folks come into the mainstream again. The most famous &#8220;regular folk&#8221; was perhaps Shaespeare and he was memorizing Ovid at nine years old ause children CAN and that used to be considered a good education. Now with reality tv shows like Survivor and Top Chef, we see how much intelligence(and folly ok&#8230;) there is in regular folks. But we&#8217;ve seen this before the shock&#8230; of a Dolly Parton or 5oCent or Eminem coming from &#8220;nothing&#8221; and writing poetry and incredible lyrics. Web boards have exposed the myth of the &#8220;layreader&#8221; as another example. I&#8217;ve participated for ten years on what began as a forum for profs and professionals who were fans of Cormac McCarthy. Often there was heated debates and resentment because of the internet the public and so-called layreaders were beginning to particpate and how could they possibly have a &#8220;close reading&#8221;. It took awahile but a slow mutual admiration society has built up between the &#8220;experts&#8221; and the non-professionals at that book forum.</p>
<p>What about the blues? And rock? Quintin Tarrantino?</p>
<p>No we were always here, just now we have our own cameras and venues.</p>
<p>I think maybe we&#8217;ll see more and  more grass roots kind of feel in product making and in consummerism. I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m lousy at predicting the future but I can imagine that people will want to have a cache of something not mainstream&#8230;homespun, but not on the level of macrame or grannies knitted torture slippers&#8230;but in music and art. More and more people understand that it isn&#8217;t institutionalized education or corporate beliefs that make one talented, or an &#8220;expert&#8217;. Those things sure don&#8217;t guarantee making a living either. Anyone really can be a star.</p>
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