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		<title>By: Austen</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/12/ending_the_cult.html/comment-page-1#comment-3609</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There may be some people who are who understand all of this, but for most of us there are now big chucks of our culture that are terra incognito.  The world is impenetrable.&quot;
I don&#039;t know, maybe things are more &quot;penetrable&quot; (stable, continuous?) if viewed from a distance. Folks are still reading the Bible, Shakespeare, Twain. Storytellers depend on the same old structures. Rock bands are still writing blues-based songs with intros, bridges, choruses. There are such things as timeless substrates below our admittedly surface-level wildly various pop culture. Albeit, surely, acknowledging such a thing isn&#039;t always how to fill the sails of those with vested interested in creating or discovering and explaining &quot;the new&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There may be some people who are who understand all of this, but for most of us there are now big chucks of our culture that are terra incognito.  The world is impenetrable.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, maybe things are more &#8220;penetrable&#8221; (stable, continuous?) if viewed from a distance. Folks are still reading the Bible, Shakespeare, Twain. Storytellers depend on the same old structures. Rock bands are still writing blues-based songs with intros, bridges, choruses. There are such things as timeless substrates below our admittedly surface-level wildly various pop culture. Albeit, surely, acknowledging such a thing isn&#8217;t always how to fill the sails of those with vested interested in creating or discovering and explaining &#8220;the new&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: M E-L</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/12/ending_the_cult.html/comment-page-1#comment-3608</link>
		<dc:creator>M E-L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that outrage / ranting comes from a moral panic, nor do I believe that information, greater clarity, or cultural mapping is the solution. I think people *want* to be outraged. They *like* being outraged, and no amount of clarity about those other cultures will change that. Because I think that folks take pleasure in being &quot;safely persecuted.&quot;
Safe persecution, I term I just made up, means that you are *actually* safe -- no one is going to come to your house and drag you away. But you take some kind of pleasure in feeling that The Man (or The Elite or what have you) is out to get you. Whether it&#039;s the War on Christmas, or Big Oil surpressing the information on Global Warming. (Read &quot;What&#039;s the Matter With Kansas&quot; for a good rundown on the peddling of outrage by the political right.) Safe persecution means that you can feel part of a community, because you&#039;re on the inside and we&#039;ve rounded up the wagons to protect ourselves against *them.*
Here&#039;s my theory on why. The Proverbial Sixties overthrew the Authentic. Being *in* the Mainstream was no longer Authentic. Now you had to be *out* of the Mainstream to have a truly &quot;Authentic&quot; experience. (Kerouac writes, &quot;How I wish I were a Negro!&quot; or some such.) To be persecuted, or discriminated against, gets you the badge of Authenticity. Hence the rise of Extreme Sports, marketed to the white middle class, so they too can have an Authentic Experience as they are bungee jumping off a bridge.
What Focus on the Family and Lewis Black are both peddling is Outrage, Safely Packaged for your enjoyment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that outrage / ranting comes from a moral panic, nor do I believe that information, greater clarity, or cultural mapping is the solution. I think people *want* to be outraged. They *like* being outraged, and no amount of clarity about those other cultures will change that. Because I think that folks take pleasure in being &#8220;safely persecuted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Safe persecution, I term I just made up, means that you are *actually* safe &#8212; no one is going to come to your house and drag you away. But you take some kind of pleasure in feeling that The Man (or The Elite or what have you) is out to get you. Whether it&#8217;s the War on Christmas, or Big Oil surpressing the information on Global Warming. (Read &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter With Kansas&#8221; for a good rundown on the peddling of outrage by the political right.) Safe persecution means that you can feel part of a community, because you&#8217;re on the inside and we&#8217;ve rounded up the wagons to protect ourselves against *them.*</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my theory on why. The Proverbial Sixties overthrew the Authentic. Being *in* the Mainstream was no longer Authentic. Now you had to be *out* of the Mainstream to have a truly &#8220;Authentic&#8221; experience. (Kerouac writes, &#8220;How I wish I were a Negro!&#8221; or some such.) To be persecuted, or discriminated against, gets you the badge of Authenticity. Hence the rise of Extreme Sports, marketed to the white middle class, so they too can have an Authentic Experience as they are bungee jumping off a bridge.</p>
<p>What Focus on the Family and Lewis Black are both peddling is Outrage, Safely Packaged for your enjoyment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Asacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Asacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant, isn&#039;t this the issue?  Where or what is the &quot;mainstream?&quot;  There are so many subcultures and niche media that it is becoming increasigly difficult to find a common experience to share with others.  Short of the economy and the war, what&#039;s mainstream?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant, isn&#8217;t this the issue?  Where or what is the &#8220;mainstream?&#8221;  There are so many subcultures and niche media that it is becoming increasigly difficult to find a common experience to share with others.  Short of the economy and the war, what&#8217;s mainstream?</p>
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		<title>By: The TrueTalk Blog</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2006/12/ending_the_cult.html/comment-page-1#comment-3610</link>
		<dc:creator>The TrueTalk Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Don&#039;t Panic!&lt;/strong&gt;
Did you read, The Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide To The Galaxy? Neither did I. I couldn&#039;t figure out what all this don&#039;t panic stuff was about for a while. The people who used that phrase were in on something that I wasn&#039;t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Don&#8217;t Panic!</strong></p>
<p>Did you read, The Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide To The Galaxy? Neither did I. I couldn&#8217;t figure out what all this don&#8217;t panic stuff was about for a while. The people who used that phrase were in on something that I wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bud Caddell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud Caddell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m curious what you mean by &quot;mainstream&quot; culture, as in your reference to scrap booking -- are you necessitating a capitalist aspect for it to be mainstream? If so, isn&#039;t it more likely that capitalism is simply efficient, and new markets and opportunities for capital spring up quickly and can help to promote a meme or activity? I&#039;m a little concerned how easily you correlate one to the other, when often the genesis of such things is varied. I&#039;d be very interested on your thoughts regarding &#039;the mainstream&#039;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m curious what you mean by &#8220;mainstream&#8221; culture, as in your reference to scrap booking &#8212; are you necessitating a capitalist aspect for it to be mainstream? If so, isn&#8217;t it more likely that capitalism is simply efficient, and new markets and opportunities for capital spring up quickly and can help to promote a meme or activity? I&#8217;m a little concerned how easily you correlate one to the other, when often the genesis of such things is varied. I&#8217;d be very interested on your thoughts regarding &#8216;the mainstream&#8217;.</p>
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