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		<title>By: All This ChittahChattah &#124; Forbidden words, 2008</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-9824</link>
		<dc:creator>All This ChittahChattah &#124; Forbidden words, 2008</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] in Bono fatigue Social networking fatigue In an online discussion group yesterday I saw a reference to profile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Drew Neisser</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3238</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Neisser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(RED) is far from dead.  Since when did raising $25 million for a worthy cause become a failure?  The Global Fund is thrilled with the results and (RED) represents its largest funding raising success by a high margin.  The (RED) business partners are not complaining--even the struggling GAP is selling out its (RED) tees.  The consumers buying (RED) are not regretting their purchases. Everyone wins except the skeptics who are struggling with the concept that a  socially responsible joint venture between non-profits and the private sector could actually work.  All I ask is that we give (RED) a chance.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(RED) is far from dead.  Since when did raising $25 million for a worthy cause become a failure?  The Global Fund is thrilled with the results and (RED) represents its largest funding raising success by a high margin.  The (RED) business partners are not complaining&#8211;even the struggling GAP is selling out its (RED) tees.  The consumers buying (RED) are not regretting their purchases. Everyone wins except the skeptics who are struggling with the concept that a  socially responsible joint venture between non-profits and the private sector could actually work.  All I ask is that we give (RED) a chance.<br />
dn</p>
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		<title>By: tiny gigantic</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3239</link>
		<dc:creator>tiny gigantic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Conflicted response to Gaps ubiqitous product (red) push&lt;/strong&gt;
For a while Ive been feeling kind of icky (and then guilty about feeling icky) about Gaps product (red) campaign. Icky because its really just an advertising campaign for The Gap, which too tightly links consumption with philanthr...
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<p>For a while Ive been feeling kind of icky (and then guilty about feeling icky) about Gaps product (red) campaign. Icky because its really just an advertising campaign for The Gap, which too tightly links consumption with philanthr&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia Postrel</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3237</link>
		<dc:creator>Virginia Postrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also a noise/competition problem. The exact shade of red was simultaneously being used to promote awareness of heart disease in women and was enjoying a purely aesthetics-driven fashion moment. Maybe the RED merchandise just wasn&#039;t the best way of either buying red or supporting AIDS relief. Or maybe it was just confusing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also a noise/competition problem. The exact shade of red was simultaneously being used to promote awareness of heart disease in women and was enjoying a purely aesthetics-driven fashion moment. Maybe the RED merchandise just wasn&#8217;t the best way of either buying red or supporting AIDS relief. Or maybe it was just confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3236</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole RED thing was DOA for me. I think it was a matter of not enough information being provided to make me aware of what the effort was all about before the product saturation began and then not clear enough referencing to the connection with the cause when the products came out.
When I saw the Motorola ads, I thought it was just a promotion for a phone design like the Razer.
My first clue that it might be something bigger was at a U2 concert where people were wearing Inspi(red) and Desi(red) shirts all over the place. Since it seemed 1) a pretty narcissistic message and 2) like people were jumping on a bandwagon to prove how cool they were, I was immediately soured on the whole thing.
It wasn&#039;t until I researched the whole thing that I understood that the GAP shirts and Motorola phones were actually related to each other and to something I might actually support. It might have been better if they made up shirts saying Ca(red) and Sha(red)to start with instead. (Or if they did, no one wanted to buy more sincere sounding shirts)
Eventually, I probably would have still be turned off by people trying to prove how socially conscious they were. But I wouldn&#039;t have been as poorly disposed toward the effort before I had a chance to investigate.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole RED thing was DOA for me. I think it was a matter of not enough information being provided to make me aware of what the effort was all about before the product saturation began and then not clear enough referencing to the connection with the cause when the products came out.</p>
<p>When I saw the Motorola ads, I thought it was just a promotion for a phone design like the Razer.</p>
<p>My first clue that it might be something bigger was at a U2 concert where people were wearing Inspi(red) and Desi(red) shirts all over the place. Since it seemed 1) a pretty narcissistic message and 2) like people were jumping on a bandwagon to prove how cool they were, I was immediately soured on the whole thing.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I researched the whole thing that I understood that the GAP shirts and Motorola phones were actually related to each other and to something I might actually support. It might have been better if they made up shirts saying Ca(red) and Sha(red)to start with instead. (Or if they did, no one wanted to buy more sincere sounding shirts)</p>
<p>Eventually, I probably would have still be turned off by people trying to prove how socially conscious they were. But I wouldn&#8217;t have been as poorly disposed toward the effort before I had a chance to investigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Edward Frith</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Edward Frith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief is that the smell of burning dollar bill incense billowing in the direction of stained glass windows? Are those derivative trading acolytes around the altar of capitalism for early mass?
I thought RED was an idea. Maybe it just got killed off by the free markets that are neither free or markets... sigh.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief is that the smell of burning dollar bill incense billowing in the direction of stained glass windows? Are those derivative trading acolytes around the altar of capitalism for early mass?</p>
<p>I thought RED was an idea. Maybe it just got killed off by the free markets that are neither free or markets&#8230; sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem Grant identifies is related to a market segment gap. Those people who do think capitalism is great often suspect that marketing efforts like RED are scams. These are the kind of people who apologize about shopping at Whole Foods because of what they see as its holier-than-thou organic BS. They aren&#039;t taken in by that BS, they just like Whole Foods&#039;s product selection. RED is a loser for them.
Then there are the people who think capitalism is a dirty word. They apologize for shopping at Whole Foods because it doesn&#039;t go far enough with its organic commitment. This group is never going to embrace RED, even if it were proven to save thousands of lives, because oppositon to &quot;the system&quot; is a core part of their identity. It&#039;s like being against DDT--the actual consequences are as nothing compared to the identity maintained by the attitude. These are Grant&#039;s &quot;skeptics.&quot;
Finally, there are the unself-conscious types who aren&#039;t sure what they think about capitalism but who feel virtuous for shopping at Whole Foods. They are the natural targets for RED, but they are highly susceptible to attacks on their virtue by the other two groups, because their desire to be a good person isn&#039;t tightly bound to an ideological point of view. Here is where denunciation by the hipsters takes its toll as Grant describes.
I think a campaign like this would work better if it were not associated with visible paraphernaila, were clearly marketed as a promotion (as Stephen Denny suggests), and were pushed hard in the more religious parts of the country. Those folks don&#039;t see anything wrong with doing well while doing good, unlike the poster at 10:17:34
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem Grant identifies is related to a market segment gap. Those people who do think capitalism is great often suspect that marketing efforts like RED are scams. These are the kind of people who apologize about shopping at Whole Foods because of what they see as its holier-than-thou organic BS. They aren&#8217;t taken in by that BS, they just like Whole Foods&#8217;s product selection. RED is a loser for them.</p>
<p>Then there are the people who think capitalism is a dirty word. They apologize for shopping at Whole Foods because it doesn&#8217;t go far enough with its organic commitment. This group is never going to embrace RED, even if it were proven to save thousands of lives, because oppositon to &#8220;the system&#8221; is a core part of their identity. It&#8217;s like being against DDT&#8211;the actual consequences are as nothing compared to the identity maintained by the attitude. These are Grant&#8217;s &#8220;skeptics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally, there are the unself-conscious types who aren&#8217;t sure what they think about capitalism but who feel virtuous for shopping at Whole Foods. They are the natural targets for RED, but they are highly susceptible to attacks on their virtue by the other two groups, because their desire to be a good person isn&#8217;t tightly bound to an ideological point of view. Here is where denunciation by the hipsters takes its toll as Grant describes.</p>
<p>I think a campaign like this would work better if it were not associated with visible paraphernaila, were clearly marketed as a promotion (as Stephen Denny suggests), and were pushed hard in the more religious parts of the country. Those folks don&#8217;t see anything wrong with doing well while doing good, unlike the poster at 10:17:34</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Denny</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry -- one more thing --
It sounds like many, many people have confused RED with a charity. Not sure why this is. RED is a cause-related promotion. A promotion.
Like, &quot;Buy this red iPod and get 25 free music downloads&quot;, except the hook is &quot;we&#039;ll donate $20 to The Global Fund to fight AIDS, TB and malaria in Africa&quot;.
Different things, both putting money where it needs to go. Not a charity. A promotion!
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<p>It sounds like many, many people have confused RED with a charity. Not sure why this is. RED is a cause-related promotion. A promotion.</p>
<p>Like, &#8220;Buy this red iPod and get 25 free music downloads&#8221;, except the hook is &#8220;we&#8217;ll donate $20 to The Global Fund to fight AIDS, TB and malaria in Africa&#8221;.</p>
<p>Different things, both putting money where it needs to go. Not a charity. A promotion!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant:
I wouldn&#039;t write this off just yet. Sure, there are many in the holier-than-RED camp who have dismissed anything that smells of &quot;capitalism&quot; (shudder), but if we can refocus for a moment on what has actually happened, the picture is good. RED has put $25M on the boards in five months.
For comparison&#039;s sake, if Newman&#039;s Own (who is pure of spirit, with 100% of profits disbursed to charities) donates, on average, $12.5m a year... tell me again why RED, with $25M in five months, is bad?
We agree that the eco-socio-snarky-trenderati occupying the top 5% of potential &quot;givers&quot; may feel this RED thing has gone (gasp) mainstream -- which would make it as un-cool as saving the rainforests or something -- but going mainstream may be the exact thing that makes RED work.
What matters is the awareness and the cash that this throws off. Judged by this criteria, RED is GOOD. Thanks!
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<p>I wouldn&#8217;t write this off just yet. Sure, there are many in the holier-than-RED camp who have dismissed anything that smells of &#8220;capitalism&#8221; (shudder), but if we can refocus for a moment on what has actually happened, the picture is good. RED has put $25M on the boards in five months.</p>
<p>For comparison&#8217;s sake, if Newman&#8217;s Own (who is pure of spirit, with 100% of profits disbursed to charities) donates, on average, $12.5m a year&#8230; tell me again why RED, with $25M in five months, is bad?</p>
<p>We agree that the eco-socio-snarky-trenderati occupying the top 5% of potential &#8220;givers&#8221; may feel this RED thing has gone (gasp) mainstream &#8212; which would make it as un-cool as saving the rainforests or something &#8212; but going mainstream may be the exact thing that makes RED work.</p>
<p>What matters is the awareness and the cash that this throws off. Judged by this criteria, RED is GOOD. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: David Taylor (from Where'sTheSausage)</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2007/03/the_red_campaig.html/comment-page-1#comment-3231</link>
		<dc:creator>David Taylor (from Where'sTheSausage)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another way of looking at it, which might get less slagging off:
A $500 MILLION BRAND, WHO GIVES 5% OF SALES TO CHARITY
http://wheresthesausage.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/03/reds_not_dead_b.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another way of looking at it, which might get less slagging off:<br />
A $500 MILLION BRAND, WHO GIVES 5% OF SALES TO CHARITY<br />
<a href="http://wheresthesausage.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/03/reds_not_dead_b.html" rel="nofollow">http://wheresthesausage.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/03/reds_not_dead_b.html</a></p>
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