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	<title>Comments on: Canada, the Martin Paradox, and The Opposable Mind</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Darby</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2008/01/canada-the-mart.html/comment-page-1#comment-2237</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Darby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this blog, Its a bit deep, but at least its challenging.  However, some of the assumptions made in this post are questionable.
Firstly, who said Americans were creative individually or in groups? (or Canadians for that matter?).  I have little experience of Canadians, but I have found Americans to be among the least creative business group of any that I have worked with.  Although, the lack of hard evidence from a broader sample has disuaded me from generalising.  If I were to though, I&#039;d characterise Americans as a race who take other people&#039;s ideas and commercialise (or polish) them.
I assume also that you are suggesting that &quot;creativity&quot; is a genetic thing, which for all I know it might be, but your comparison with Italians suggests that you believe Italians to be less creative with fashion, or food than Americans, when I think all the evidence and most people (certainly I) would recognise that the reverse is true.  (I&#039;m not Italian either by the way.)  Isn&#039;t a lot of &quot;American&quot; food a derivitive of Italian?  Another case of polishing, perhaps?  As are all the faux Italian clothing lines I see in American stores.
One thing that I really like about the post though is the concept of &quot;Opposable Mind&quot;, so I&#039;m off to buy Martin&#039;s book.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this blog, Its a bit deep, but at least its challenging.  However, some of the assumptions made in this post are questionable.</p>
<p>Firstly, who said Americans were creative individually or in groups? (or Canadians for that matter?).  I have little experience of Canadians, but I have found Americans to be among the least creative business group of any that I have worked with.  Although, the lack of hard evidence from a broader sample has disuaded me from generalising.  If I were to though, I&#8217;d characterise Americans as a race who take other people&#8217;s ideas and commercialise (or polish) them.</p>
<p>I assume also that you are suggesting that &#8220;creativity&#8221; is a genetic thing, which for all I know it might be, but your comparison with Italians suggests that you believe Italians to be less creative with fashion, or food than Americans, when I think all the evidence and most people (certainly I) would recognise that the reverse is true.  (I&#8217;m not Italian either by the way.)  Isn&#8217;t a lot of &#8220;American&#8221; food a derivitive of Italian?  Another case of polishing, perhaps?  As are all the faux Italian clothing lines I see in American stores.</p>
<p>One thing that I really like about the post though is the concept of &#8220;Opposable Mind&#8221;, so I&#8217;m off to buy Martin&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being creative in a group is determined by how the group functions: does it seek to brainstorm and devise new solutions or does it seek concensus?
This week, I was back at a volunteer committee with my local Community Living Association (advocacy agency for people with intellectual disabilities.) Not only are our meetings a lot of fun, but they can be quite inspiring; our meetings are a setting where we truly can be more creative together, than if we were alone giving input. We eat lunch, enjoy each others&#039; company and turn our attention to the best interests of the agency and the people it serves.
This has also been my experience at the provincial level, and I am truly excited about returning to a provincial communications conference in February. I will report back, if you&#039;re interested, Grant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being creative in a group is determined by how the group functions: does it seek to brainstorm and devise new solutions or does it seek concensus?</p>
<p>This week, I was back at a volunteer committee with my local Community Living Association (advocacy agency for people with intellectual disabilities.) Not only are our meetings a lot of fun, but they can be quite inspiring; our meetings are a setting where we truly can be more creative together, than if we were alone giving input. We eat lunch, enjoy each others&#8217; company and turn our attention to the best interests of the agency and the people it serves.</p>
<p>This has also been my experience at the provincial level, and I am truly excited about returning to a provincial communications conference in February. I will report back, if you&#8217;re interested, Grant.</p>
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		<title>By: Quotulatiousness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quotulatiousness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;QotD: The Canadian Soul&lt;/strong&gt;
I almost never pull multiple quotations from the same article or blog post, but in this case I had to make an exception (after yesterday&#039;s QotD from This Blog Sits at the): One concept of Canadians is that they are...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>QotD: The Canadian Soul</strong></p>
<p>I almost never pull multiple quotations from the same article or blog post, but in this case I had to make an exception (after yesterday&#8217;s QotD from This Blog Sits at the): One concept of Canadians is that they are&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Dodds</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being neither Canadian or American I shall not focus on nationalistic distractions but I very much like the basic thesis of the need to synthesise opposable ideas. Is this the equivalent of the much frowned upon use of devil&#039;s advocacy?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being neither Canadian or American I shall not focus on nationalistic distractions but I very much like the basic thesis of the need to synthesise opposable ideas. Is this the equivalent of the much frowned upon use of devil&#8217;s advocacy?</p>
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		<title>By: Quotulatiousness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quotulatiousness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;QotD: Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense, Canadian version&lt;/strong&gt;
A skeptic might say I am going easy on Martin because I have met him, because he is a Canadian (and there is Canadian mafia), and/or because he gave me a copy of his book. May I reassure you...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>QotD: Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense, Canadian version</strong></p>
<p>A skeptic might say I am going easy on Martin because I have met him, because he is a Canadian (and there is Canadian mafia), and/or because he gave me a copy of his book. May I reassure you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Damer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Canadians are not creative in groups, this may be a special national characteristic.&quot;
Grant,
National stereotyping is racism in the global village.
Don&#039;t judge me by the colour of my flag.
P.S. I grant you pardon, at least partially, due to the fact that you gleaned this idea from a business scholar in Toronto. That Torontonians speak for Canada isn&#039;t a product of expertise or experience, it&#039;s just one of many unfortunate side-effects of media consolidation! (See what I just did? That&#039;s called a gross generalization!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Canadians are not creative in groups, this may be a special national characteristic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Grant,</p>
<p>National stereotyping is racism in the global village.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t judge me by the colour of my flag.</p>
<p>P.S. I grant you pardon, at least partially, due to the fact that you gleaned this idea from a business scholar in Toronto. That Torontonians speak for Canada isn&#8217;t a product of expertise or experience, it&#8217;s just one of many unfortunate side-effects of media consolidation! (See what I just did? That&#8217;s called a gross generalization!)</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think cultural attitudes to open discussions will have a large impact on the creativity of groups.  If most people in a room feel uncomfortable with the open discussion of important issues, then group discussions are unlikely to be very creative.
I have little experience of working with Canadians, Grant, so I am not able to comment on your central idea.  One important feature of Americans, in my experience, is a very strong dislike of decisions being taken secretly or outside-the-group. American business people, perhaps very appropriately for a country founded on an anti-monarchical idea, prefer discussion to be open, inclusive, and with all the stakeholders directly involved.   Is this also true of Canadians?
This attitude is very different from, say, English business culture or the cultures of East Asia (China, Japan, Korea).     (Note that I say &quot;English&quot; becaused I cannot speak for Scottish or Irish culture in this respect.)   All these cultures prefer groups NOT to discuss important matters openly, but rather to decide the key issues beforehand, outside the meeting (in the corridors rather than in the meeting room), and usually by a small cabal.   Younger managers from all these countries are less like this than are older managers.  As an Australian (and hence a crypto-American), I think the increasing openness of young English and East Asian managers is A Very Good Thing.
I have sat through numerous business meetings in Asia where nobody contributes anything regarding a pressing problem, but where an agreed (and often very creative) solution is suddenly produced minutes after the meeting is adjourned.  The solution had clearly been prepared, discussed widely and ageed before the meeting, but nobody was willing to talk about it in an open meeting.  My inner American would despair at this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think cultural attitudes to open discussions will have a large impact on the creativity of groups.  If most people in a room feel uncomfortable with the open discussion of important issues, then group discussions are unlikely to be very creative.</p>
<p>I have little experience of working with Canadians, Grant, so I am not able to comment on your central idea.  One important feature of Americans, in my experience, is a very strong dislike of decisions being taken secretly or outside-the-group. American business people, perhaps very appropriately for a country founded on an anti-monarchical idea, prefer discussion to be open, inclusive, and with all the stakeholders directly involved.   Is this also true of Canadians?</p>
<p>This attitude is very different from, say, English business culture or the cultures of East Asia (China, Japan, Korea).     (Note that I say &#8220;English&#8221; becaused I cannot speak for Scottish or Irish culture in this respect.)   All these cultures prefer groups NOT to discuss important matters openly, but rather to decide the key issues beforehand, outside the meeting (in the corridors rather than in the meeting room), and usually by a small cabal.   Younger managers from all these countries are less like this than are older managers.  As an Australian (and hence a crypto-American), I think the increasing openness of young English and East Asian managers is A Very Good Thing.</p>
<p>I have sat through numerous business meetings in Asia where nobody contributes anything regarding a pressing problem, but where an agreed (and often very creative) solution is suddenly produced minutes after the meeting is adjourned.  The solution had clearly been prepared, discussed widely and ageed before the meeting, but nobody was willing to talk about it in an open meeting.  My inner American would despair at this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So is the Martin Paradox the reason that Schulich is so much more innovative than Rotman?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So is the Martin Paradox the reason that Schulich is so much more innovative than Rotman?</p>
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		<title>By: lauren</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi grant, thankfully, i don&#039;t care if a few of your canadian individual reference points are slightly skewiff. i really appreciate this model and paradox. the idea that a group, organisation and nation is, and has permission to be, complex is deliciously refreshing. and perhaps i relate because i&#039;m australian and there is a resonance of that similar complexity here too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi grant, thankfully, i don&#8217;t care if a few of your canadian individual reference points are slightly skewiff. i really appreciate this model and paradox. the idea that a group, organisation and nation is, and has permission to be, complex is deliciously refreshing. and perhaps i relate because i&#8217;m australian and there is a resonance of that similar complexity here too.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William Gibson was born in South Carolina, and only went to Canada in the Sixties to escape the draft. I love his books, but I more of an American (came to the U.S. from Canada when I was 8) than he is a Canadian.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Gibson was born in South Carolina, and only went to Canada in the Sixties to escape the draft. I love his books, but I more of an American (came to the U.S. from Canada when I was <img src='http://cultureby.com/site/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> than he is a Canadian.</p>
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