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		<title>By: jkh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks david.
interesting insight. - so you are actually in the art and design niche.. intersting. - i always thought those specialised shops would do reasonably as they are popping up everywhere. - but then probably it is very much a labour of love.
all the best with your store and project. - if i can be of any help - i would not know how at the moment... grant has got my details.
all the best, jens
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks david.<br />
interesting insight. &#8211; so you are actually in the art and design niche.. intersting. &#8211; i always thought those specialised shops would do reasonably as they are popping up everywhere. &#8211; but then probably it is very much a labour of love.<br />
all the best with your store and project. &#8211; if i can be of any help &#8211; i would not know how at the moment&#8230; grant has got my details.<br />
all the best, jens</p>
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		<title>By: srp</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you in general that corporate bookstores have to be more cookie-cutter than independents. But that unit in Evanston pulled in everybody from the local homeless (who seemed unusually sane and literate) to the college folks. There was a huge group sitting around on chairs, the floor, etc., readng madly, especially at the front of the store where the periodicals were displayed. It was surprisingly social, and I think the odd pickup even occurred there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you in general that corporate bookstores have to be more cookie-cutter than independents. But that unit in Evanston pulled in everybody from the local homeless (who seemed unusually sane and literate) to the college folks. There was a huge group sitting around on chairs, the floor, etc., readng madly, especially at the front of the store where the periodicals were displayed. It was surprisingly social, and I think the odd pickup even occurred there.</p>
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		<title>By: David Michaelides</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[post by Grant McCracken for David Michaelides]
Eric:
In Toronto there have been two instances of bookstores saved by the generosity of the communities they served. In both cases economic realities ultimately overtook these efforts. Increasingly, independent urban bookstores are run as hobbies by wealthy retirees, trust-fund kids or financially supported spouses. Low margins and the high overhead in any urban center location make this form of retail a dubious prospect, almost irrespective of sales volume. An urban bookseller must be willing to work for very little with, at best, no return on investment and more likely with mounting losses. Some individuals  choose to do so. Once the initial crisis is averted few communities can be motivated to maintain this kind of commitment in the face of a more-or-less permanent need for subsidy. I hope your Kepler&#039;s fares better the examples here.
jhk:
I have for 20 years run a general design, graphic design and advertising industry bookstore in Toronto. My good-natured competition was an industrial design bookstore, in business for 22 years and an architectural bookstore, in business for more than 25 years. Both these shops will have closed by the end of April. Counter-intuitively, specialty bookselling is more vulnerable to competition from large-scale players than is general bookselling. We all assumed that our problem was going to be B &amp; N and the like (or perhaps Walmart). Of course the problem has turned out to be Amazon. Bibliophiles feel the pleasure of browsing offsets the attraction of a 30% discount and imagine that it must be so for the majority of customers. Sometimes it is. Amazon can&#039;t compete with me in the depth my inventory. All those obscure European and Japanese titles that I make no money on are supposed to push the easy stuff out the door. Amazon kills me on the easy stuff. Sometimes I feel like a Sears catalogue showroom - everyone browsing with a notepad!
srd:
Your point about Barnes &amp; Noble is fair enough. They are a bookstore and all bookstores can, potentially, serve this cultural purpose. However Barnes and Noble rarely sets up shop in a marginal area of town. Shopping malls (or their gentrified main street equivalents) have strict rules of participation, spoken and unspoken. Shops like B &amp; N invite certain types of people and exclude others both through the physical properties of the stores and through the selection of material they offer for sale. Which is fair. So do independents. Yet independent bookstores manifest all the idiosyncrasies of the individuals who &quot;curate&quot; them, both in terms of their rules of public conduct and in the ideas being disseminated. We negotiate with the diverse elements in our streetscapes and culturescapes in a way that a corporation cannot, rightly, be expected to do. They have a responsibility to their shareholders. We have a responsibility to a more diverse group of stakeholders.
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<p>Eric:</p>
<p>In Toronto there have been two instances of bookstores saved by the generosity of the communities they served. In both cases economic realities ultimately overtook these efforts. Increasingly, independent urban bookstores are run as hobbies by wealthy retirees, trust-fund kids or financially supported spouses. Low margins and the high overhead in any urban center location make this form of retail a dubious prospect, almost irrespective of sales volume. An urban bookseller must be willing to work for very little with, at best, no return on investment and more likely with mounting losses. Some individuals  choose to do so. Once the initial crisis is averted few communities can be motivated to maintain this kind of commitment in the face of a more-or-less permanent need for subsidy. I hope your Kepler&#8217;s fares better the examples here.</p>
<p>jhk:</p>
<p>I have for 20 years run a general design, graphic design and advertising industry bookstore in Toronto. My good-natured competition was an industrial design bookstore, in business for 22 years and an architectural bookstore, in business for more than 25 years. Both these shops will have closed by the end of April. Counter-intuitively, specialty bookselling is more vulnerable to competition from large-scale players than is general bookselling. We all assumed that our problem was going to be B &#038; N and the like (or perhaps Walmart). Of course the problem has turned out to be Amazon. Bibliophiles feel the pleasure of browsing offsets the attraction of a 30% discount and imagine that it must be so for the majority of customers. Sometimes it is. Amazon can&#8217;t compete with me in the depth my inventory. All those obscure European and Japanese titles that I make no money on are supposed to push the easy stuff out the door. Amazon kills me on the easy stuff. Sometimes I feel like a Sears catalogue showroom &#8211; everyone browsing with a notepad!</p>
<p>srd:</p>
<p>Your point about Barnes &#038; Noble is fair enough. They are a bookstore and all bookstores can, potentially, serve this cultural purpose. However Barnes and Noble rarely sets up shop in a marginal area of town. Shopping malls (or their gentrified main street equivalents) have strict rules of participation, spoken and unspoken. Shops like B &#038; N invite certain types of people and exclude others both through the physical properties of the stores and through the selection of material they offer for sale. Which is fair. So do independents. Yet independent bookstores manifest all the idiosyncrasies of the individuals who &#8220;curate&#8221; them, both in terms of their rules of public conduct and in the ideas being disseminated. We negotiate with the diverse elements in our streetscapes and culturescapes in a way that a corporation cannot, rightly, be expected to do. They have a responsibility to their shareholders. We have a responsibility to a more diverse group of stakeholders.</p>
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		<title>By: srp</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was in Evanston ten years ago, the local Barnes &amp; Noble played exactly this role. I don&#039;t see why a bookstore has to be independent to be an idleness-legitimator.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in Evanston ten years ago, the local Barnes &#038; Noble played exactly this role. I don&#8217;t see why a bookstore has to be independent to be an idleness-legitimator.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the comic cafés in Japan. In some places you can read comics, use internet etc but you pay also pay for the time you stay there. But their use has become a lot more varied than that.
Quick googling gave this blog-entry explaining some of their history/present use http://www.yoke.or.jp/echo/0511/f.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the comic cafés in Japan. In some places you can read comics, use internet etc but you pay also pay for the time you stay there. But their use has become a lot more varied than that.</p>
<p>Quick googling gave this blog-entry explaining some of their history/present use <a href="http://www.yoke.or.jp/echo/0511/f.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.yoke.or.jp/echo/0511/f.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t leave it to bookstores. Record shops are the same. They are places that encourage pedestrians to come in and just listen to new music. Some of the better small ones even had bands. A little record shop in Buffalo (now out of business) had Sloan make an appearance and jam for about an hour. Five people watched, others loitered. But these are dying industries, but don&#039;t have to be dying concepts. Again, my town has a place that just opened up called Village Beer Merchant. The name implies the goal: a community on the street. A place you can bring your Growler and they will fill it from their kegs. A place that encourages you to loiter, to look, to learn. Big box stores have taken the fun out of just shopping. We dare not go to a big box out of fear of getting lost, but smaller stores encourage you to get lost.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t leave it to bookstores. Record shops are the same. They are places that encourage pedestrians to come in and just listen to new music. Some of the better small ones even had bands. A little record shop in Buffalo (now out of business) had Sloan make an appearance and jam for about an hour. Five people watched, others loitered. But these are dying industries, but don&#8217;t have to be dying concepts. Again, my town has a place that just opened up called Village Beer Merchant. The name implies the goal: a community on the street. A place you can bring your Growler and they will fill it from their kegs. A place that encourages you to loiter, to look, to learn. Big box stores have taken the fun out of just shopping. We dare not go to a big box out of fear of getting lost, but smaller stores encourage you to get lost.</p>
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		<title>By: jkh</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great story of kepler&#039;s, eric.
the great urban idleness reservation - what a precise observation, grant.
as in general independent bookstores seem to suffer i can see theme focused independent bookstores flourishing. - most notably in the field of art, design and architecture. and they are a true oasis of idleness - much like some fashion boutiques or furniture and design shops that you find in cities like rome, milan, madrid, paris, newyork, london, berlin etc. etc....
these (mostly but not exclusively smallish) shops offer you something that is popularly being summed up under the label of &#039;curated consumption&#039;. - you step into this world, have a complimentary coffee or a gin tonic and talk with the owner about the world and the new things that are relevant and up and coming through her/his eye...
here is a new book idea for you grant. - get yourself a good publishing house - one that is really leading in coffee table books - team up with a good photographer (they will provide you with one) - and explore these  reserves of urban idleness in essays and interviews.
do it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great story of kepler&#8217;s, eric.</p>
<p>the great urban idleness reservation &#8211; what a precise observation, grant.</p>
<p>as in general independent bookstores seem to suffer i can see theme focused independent bookstores flourishing. &#8211; most notably in the field of art, design and architecture. and they are a true oasis of idleness &#8211; much like some fashion boutiques or furniture and design shops that you find in cities like rome, milan, madrid, paris, newyork, london, berlin etc. etc&#8230;.<br />
these (mostly but not exclusively smallish) shops offer you something that is popularly being summed up under the label of &#8216;curated consumption&#8217;. &#8211; you step into this world, have a complimentary coffee or a gin tonic and talk with the owner about the world and the new things that are relevant and up and coming through her/his eye&#8230;</p>
<p>here is a new book idea for you grant. &#8211; get yourself a good publishing house &#8211; one that is really leading in coffee table books &#8211; team up with a good photographer (they will provide you with one) &#8211; and explore these  reserves of urban idleness in essays and interviews.</p>
<p>do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Nehrlich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Nehrlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great observation, Grant.  I love independent bookstores that cater to loitering, with big comfy chairs, and no norm police scolding people for reading books without paying.  HousingWorks Used Book Store is one of my favorite places in New York for that reason.
Kepler&#039;s bookstore in Menlo Park, CA provides a story of how a community didn&#039;t miss its center until it was gone.  Kepler&#039;s went out of business, but there was such an uproar from the community and a rush of donations that it reopened a month later as the community realized that it couldn&#039;t live without its bookstore at the center of town.  Kepler&#039;s now offer memberships so that people can recognize the value it brings above and beyond selling books.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great observation, Grant.  I love independent bookstores that cater to loitering, with big comfy chairs, and no norm police scolding people for reading books without paying.  HousingWorks Used Book Store is one of my favorite places in New York for that reason.</p>
<p>Kepler&#8217;s bookstore in Menlo Park, CA provides a story of how a community didn&#8217;t miss its center until it was gone.  Kepler&#8217;s went out of business, but there was such an uproar from the community and a rush of donations that it reopened a month later as the community realized that it couldn&#8217;t live without its bookstore at the center of town.  Kepler&#8217;s now offer memberships so that people can recognize the value it brings above and beyond selling books.</p>
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