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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2008/05/and-here-i-was.html/comment-page-1#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Back in the 60&#039;s (when color was unleashed in popular culture) at Massimo&#039;s first design practice in Chicago, he and his staff would wear white lab coats. He was trying to create the impression that his design was so rational,logical and impersonal that it was like science.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the 60&#39;s (when color was unleashed in popular culture) at Massimo&#39;s first design practice in Chicago, he and his staff would wear white lab coats. He was trying to create the impression that his design was so rational,logical and impersonal that it was like science.</p>
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		<title>By: jkh</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2008/05/and-here-i-was.html/comment-page-1#comment-1583</link>
		<dc:creator>jkh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;to be more precise:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the 5 step model the way i showed it above is actually the typical way for a heterosexual designer to speak and think. &lt;br /&gt;
with a homosexual designer it is actually exactly the other way around. - beginning with the testimonial, then the pitching of the benefits , then the philosophy parts and finally the more general statements. &lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be more precise:</p>
<p>the 5 step model the way i showed it above is actually the typical way for a heterosexual designer to speak and think. <br />
with a homosexual designer it is actually exactly the other way around. &#8211; beginning with the testimonial, then the pitching of the benefits , then the philosophy parts and finally the more general statements. </p>
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		<title>By: jkh</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2008/05/and-here-i-was.html/comment-page-1#comment-1582</link>
		<dc:creator>jkh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;true, the vignelli quote is a great example of how designers think and speak: subjective, passionate, opinionated and within their own and personal - and often intriguing - philosophical cosmos.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;To begin with, black has class. It&#039;s the best color.  This is no other color that is better than black.&quot; - this is typical provocation to open the scene.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;There are many other colors that are appropriate and happy but those colors belong on flowers.&quot; - introduction into the philosophy&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Black is a color that is man-made. It is really a projection of the brain. It is a mind color. It is intangible.&quot; - philosophical core - delivered with the same winning attitude as the initial provocation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;It is practical.  It works 24 hours a day.  In the morning or the afternoon, you can dress in tweed, but in the evening, you look like a professor who has escaped from a college. Everything else has connotations that are different, but black is good for everything.&quot; -  pitching the benefits.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;My house is covered in black.&quot; - testimonial.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
you gotta love it. the content follows the passion for presentation and creation - solid, rounded and 95% subjective.&lt;br /&gt;
it is the opposite of science - it is pure storytelling. - and inseparably linked to the context of the interview.&lt;br /&gt;
the statement itself is a piece of design.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true, the vignelli quote is a great example of how designers think and speak: subjective, passionate, opinionated and within their own and personal &#8211; and often intriguing &#8211; philosophical cosmos.</p>
<p>&quot;To begin with, black has class. It&#39;s the best color.  This is no other color that is better than black.&quot; &#8211; this is typical provocation to open the scene.</p>
<p>&quot;There are many other colors that are appropriate and happy but those colors belong on flowers.&quot; &#8211; introduction into the philosophy</p>
<p>&quot;Black is a color that is man-made. It is really a projection of the brain. It is a mind color. It is intangible.&quot; &#8211; philosophical core &#8211; delivered with the same winning attitude as the initial provocation.</p>
<p>&quot;It is practical.  It works 24 hours a day.  In the morning or the afternoon, you can dress in tweed, but in the evening, you look like a professor who has escaped from a college. Everything else has connotations that are different, but black is good for everything.&quot; &#8211;  pitching the benefits.</p>
<p>&quot;My house is covered in black.&quot; &#8211; testimonial.</p>
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you gotta love it. the content follows the passion for presentation and creation &#8211; solid, rounded and 95% subjective.<br />
it is the opposite of science &#8211; it is pure storytelling. &#8211; and inseparably linked to the context of the interview.<br />
the statement itself is a piece of design.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2008/05/and-here-i-was.html/comment-page-1#comment-1581</link>
		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Debbie.  So much for my memory of the colour!&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Debbie.  So much for my memory of the colour!</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;could be that designers are like the chasidim, getting their fashion cues from 18th century polish nobility. maybe not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i always wonder about the thought that &#039;cool is conservatism dressed in black.&#039; personal observation: a lot of younger designers seem to believe this too and seem to be less afraid of color in their wardrobe.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could be that designers are like the chasidim, getting their fashion cues from 18th century polish nobility. maybe not.</p>
<p>i always wonder about the thought that &#39;cool is conservatism dressed in black.&#39; personal observation: a lot of younger designers seem to believe this too and seem to be less afraid of color in their wardrobe.</p>
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		<title>By: LK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i recall a documentary about leonard cohen made c the late 80s (around his &quot;comeback&quot;) and they showed his closet and it had nothing but a modest number of identical black designer suits...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PS i for one have seen debbie millman in red ; b&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recall a documentary about leonard cohen made c the late 80s (around his &quot;comeback&quot;) and they showed his closet and it had nothing but a modest number of identical black designer suits&#8230;</p>
<p>PS i for one have seen debbie millman in red ; b</p>
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		<title>By: debbie millman</title>
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		<dc:creator>debbie millman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grant: thank you for the major shout-out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Peter:The quote you are referring to is from my favorite scene in the film. I loved it so much, I transcribed it so that I could refer back to it. Here it is in all of its fabulous entirety:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Miranda:&lt;br /&gt;
Is something funny? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Andy:&lt;br /&gt;
No, no, no. Nothing, it just so, it is just those belts look exactly the same to me. I am still learning about this stuff, and…&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Miranda:&lt;br /&gt;
This… stuff. Oh, okay, I see. You think this has nothing to do with you. You go to your closet and you select, I don’t know, that lumpy blue sweater, for instance, because you are trying to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously to care about whatever you put on your back but what you don’t know is that that sweater is not just blue, it’s not turquoise, it’s not lapis. It’s actually cerulean. And you’re also blithely unaware of the fact that in 2002 Oscar De La Renta did a selection of cerulean gowns and then I think it was Yves St. Laurent, wasn’t it, who showed cerulean military jackets and then cerulean quickly showed up in the collections of eight different designers and then filtered down through the department stores and then trickled on down into some tragic Casual Corner where you, no doubt, fished it out of some clearance bin. However, that blue represents millions of dollars and countless jobs. And it is sort of comical to think that somehow you made a choice that exempts you from the fashion industry, when in fact, you are wearing a sweater that was selected for you by the people in this room, from a pile of… stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant: thank you for the major shout-out.</p>
<p>Peter:The quote you are referring to is from my favorite scene in the film. I loved it so much, I transcribed it so that I could refer back to it. Here it is in all of its fabulous entirety:</p>
<p>Miranda:<br />
Is something funny? </p>
<p>Andy:<br />
No, no, no. Nothing, it just so, it is just those belts look exactly the same to me. I am still learning about this stuff, and…</p>
<p>Miranda:<br />
This… stuff. Oh, okay, I see. You think this has nothing to do with you. You go to your closet and you select, I don’t know, that lumpy blue sweater, for instance, because you are trying to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously to care about whatever you put on your back but what you don’t know is that that sweater is not just blue, it’s not turquoise, it’s not lapis. It’s actually cerulean. And you’re also blithely unaware of the fact that in 2002 Oscar De La Renta did a selection of cerulean gowns and then I think it was Yves St. Laurent, wasn’t it, who showed cerulean military jackets and then cerulean quickly showed up in the collections of eight different designers and then filtered down through the department stores and then trickled on down into some tragic Casual Corner where you, no doubt, fished it out of some clearance bin. However, that blue represents millions of dollars and countless jobs. And it is sort of comical to think that somehow you made a choice that exempts you from the fashion industry, when in fact, you are wearing a sweater that was selected for you by the people in this room, from a pile of… stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a great scene in &quot;The Devil Wears Prada&quot; where the fashion magazine editor played by Meryl Streep lectures the young intern on the recent use in fashion of a particular colour, purple or chartreuse, if I recall correctly.   Watching this scene led me to think that every colour is loaded with connotations, history and meaning for people involved in fashion, so that choosing the colours of one&#039;s clothes and accessories must in consequence be fraught with hazard for fashionistas (as indeed the movie makes clear).   Black, on the other hand, is not-colour, so choosing to dress in black may initially have been viewed as a deliberate renunciation of this colour choice.  Black (at least initially, perhaps less so a decade on) was therefore choosing not to choose, and so by definition cool:  black was art disguised as artlessness. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great scene in &quot;The Devil Wears Prada&quot; where the fashion magazine editor played by Meryl Streep lectures the young intern on the recent use in fashion of a particular colour, purple or chartreuse, if I recall correctly.   Watching this scene led me to think that every colour is loaded with connotations, history and meaning for people involved in fashion, so that choosing the colours of one&#39;s clothes and accessories must in consequence be fraught with hazard for fashionistas (as indeed the movie makes clear).   Black, on the other hand, is not-colour, so choosing to dress in black may initially have been viewed as a deliberate renunciation of this colour choice.  Black (at least initially, perhaps less so a decade on) was therefore choosing not to choose, and so by definition cool:  black was art disguised as artlessness. </p>
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		<title>By: JohnO</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had an art professor, that for every single class the whole semester, worse black on black.  If it was cold, a dark grey sport coat&lt;/p&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an art professor, that for every single class the whole semester, worse black on black.  If it was cold, a dark grey sport coat</p>
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