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		<title>By: Mary Walker</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2009/03/world-and-market-making-an-anthropological-point-of-view.html/comment-page-1#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, a lot of people in Silicon Valley are fascinated by this idea of a company creating a platform / an ecosystem (open APIs etc.) -- ie thinking more broadly with ecosystem as your metaphor, rather than single product as your metaphor.
Examples: Salesforce.com and its Apps marketplace, Facebook w/ its developer apps, Apple with the iPhone apps. Build your product with open APIs etc and get other people to help you expand your platform empire. Make your product the default choice, the almost-mandatory choice, the clear leader in that entire space/zone by enlisting a large community of users and developers to generate an entire ecosystem of additional value around your core &quot;thing&quot;.
In a way this is an evolution/expansion of the old software idea of having a big developer community. It leverages the network effect: the more people are using your product/platform, the more people / additional developers will pile on, the more likely it is that some good add-on stuff will be created, which will help attract new people, etc.
Which of course is wonderful for the core company -- it creates barriers of entry and enables them to preserve high prices/profit margins. So this isn&#039;t just &quot;creating meaning&quot; for the benefit of the broader world. It&#039;s a business strategy can be highly profitable and defendable.
&gt;&gt;&gt;At the moment, we are good at making meaning (Facebook) and good at making money (Amazon), but we are not good at doing both.  &lt;&lt;&lt;
Yup -- my only observation there is that may be a sign of the relative age/maturity of the respective companies &amp; market.
Amazon didn&#039;t make serious money and was considered to be badly off track (unfocused etc.) for many years.  Facebook is a much newer company: its business model is still evolving.  There are a lot of companies out there where the new business model is not yet fully formed &amp; in place (such as the news and traditional newspapers - where the old model is failing before the new model gets into place).
The trick of course with these new organizations is that there may or may not be a profitable business model at the end of it -- it can be hard to tell if the light at the end of the tunnel is daylight or an oncoming train.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a lot of people in Silicon Valley are fascinated by this idea of a company creating a platform / an ecosystem (open APIs etc.) &#8212; ie thinking more broadly with ecosystem as your metaphor, rather than single product as your metaphor.</p>
<p>Examples: Salesforce.com and its Apps marketplace, Facebook w/ its developer apps, Apple with the iPhone apps. Build your product with open APIs etc and get other people to help you expand your platform empire. Make your product the default choice, the almost-mandatory choice, the clear leader in that entire space/zone by enlisting a large community of users and developers to generate an entire ecosystem of additional value around your core &#8220;thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>In a way this is an evolution/expansion of the old software idea of having a big developer community. It leverages the network effect: the more people are using your product/platform, the more people / additional developers will pile on, the more likely it is that some good add-on stuff will be created, which will help attract new people, etc.</p>
<p>Which of course is wonderful for the core company &#8212; it creates barriers of entry and enables them to preserve high prices/profit margins. So this isn&#8217;t just &#8220;creating meaning&#8221; for the benefit of the broader world. It&#8217;s a business strategy can be highly profitable and defendable.</p>
<p>>>>At the moment, we are good at making meaning (Facebook) and good at making money (Amazon), but we are not good at doing both.  <<<</p>
<p>Yup &#8212; my only observation there is that may be a sign of the relative age/maturity of the respective companies &#038; market.</p>
<p>Amazon didn&#8217;t make serious money and was considered to be badly off track (unfocused etc.) for many years.  Facebook is a much newer company: its business model is still evolving.  There are a lot of companies out there where the new business model is not yet fully formed &#038; in place (such as the news and traditional newspapers &#8211; where the old model is failing before the new model gets into place).</p>
<p>The trick of course with these new organizations is that there may or may not be a profitable business model at the end of it &#8212; it can be hard to tell if the light at the end of the tunnel is daylight or an oncoming train.</p>
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		<title>By: Seamus McCauley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seamus McCauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It bids the corporation go out hunting for undiscovered domains where there is no real competition&quot;
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; genius hits a target no one else can see.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It bids the corporation go out hunting for undiscovered domains where there is no real competition&#8221;</p>
<p>Talent hits a target no one else can hit; genius hits a target no one else can see.<br />
- Arthur Schopenhauer</p>
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		<title>By: John Hagel</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2009/03/world-and-market-making-an-anthropological-point-of-view.html/comment-page-1#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grant - Thanks for a great post and the favorable mention of our article in HBR.
The article is built on a much broader perspective regarding the fundamental shifts driving the evolution of our business and social landscape.  We are in the process of trying to develop the key elements of this broader perspective at a new blog on The Big Shift at &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/bigshift/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/bigshift/&lt;/a&gt;
Would certainly welcome your comments and reactions to our postings there - they should be helpful in framing the context for the shaping strategy opportunity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grant &#8211; Thanks for a great post and the favorable mention of our article in HBR.</p>
<p>The article is built on a much broader perspective regarding the fundamental shifts driving the evolution of our business and social landscape.  We are in the process of trying to develop the key elements of this broader perspective at a new blog on The Big Shift at <a href="http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/bigshift/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/bigshift/</a></p>
<p>Would certainly welcome your comments and reactions to our postings there &#8211; they should be helpful in framing the context for the shaping strategy opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Grant, this is great, stout thinking. And it rings true to my experience of building a new kind of marketplace, where participants have shared context, purpose and values.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Grant, this is great, stout thinking. And it rings true to my experience of building a new kind of marketplace, where participants have shared context, purpose and values.</p>
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		<title>By: David Boorstin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Boorstin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you&#039;re saying is that brands have more than just functional attributes: they have emotional and expressive attributes as well. Going to the Hollywood cafe gives you an emotional thrill and expresses that you&#039;re an insider. The DMV is just about getting something done. More on brands and society at &lt;a href=&quot;http://davidboorstin.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://davidboorstin.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you&#8217;re saying is that brands have more than just functional attributes: they have emotional and expressive attributes as well. Going to the Hollywood cafe gives you an emotional thrill and expresses that you&#8217;re an insider. The DMV is just about getting something done. More on brands and society at <a href="http://davidboorstin.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://davidboorstin.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was writing up my PhD thesis in physics, a headhunter called out of the blue.  I wasn&#039;t interested in going to Wall Street.  She said she was getting out of the business of placing physicists on Wall Street because follow-up calls were too depressing.  She said that they were all depressed and counting the time they had left until they made their number and could leave.
I told her the kind of job that I wanted.  Before she was able to send me out on interviews, I landed the national lab job of my dreams on my own.  It pays much less, but I have never regretted it.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2007/01/tagged-youre-it.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2007/01/tagged-youre-it.html&lt;/a&gt;
BTW, I raved about Taleb&#039;s Black Swan here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2008/04/black-swan.html.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2008/04/black-swan.html.&lt;/a&gt;
But I disagree on one point.  IQ follows a power law relationship, not a normal distribution.  Email me if you want to know why.  It is not bloggable.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was writing up my PhD thesis in physics, a headhunter called out of the blue.  I wasn&#8217;t interested in going to Wall Street.  She said she was getting out of the business of placing physicists on Wall Street because follow-up calls were too depressing.  She said that they were all depressed and counting the time they had left until they made their number and could leave.</p>
<p>I told her the kind of job that I wanted.  Before she was able to send me out on interviews, I landed the national lab job of my dreams on my own.  It pays much less, but I have never regretted it.<br />
<a href="http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2007/01/tagged-youre-it.html" rel="nofollow">http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2007/01/tagged-youre-it.html</a></p>
<p>BTW, I raved about Taleb&#8217;s Black Swan here: <a href="http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2008/04/black-swan.html." rel="nofollow">http://badmomgoodmom.blogspot.com/2008/04/black-swan.html.</a></p>
<p>But I disagree on one point.  IQ follows a power law relationship, not a normal distribution.  Email me if you want to know why.  It is not bloggable.</p>
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		<title>By: srp</title>
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		<dc:creator>srp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole Naseem Taleb bubble is a bit annoying (e.g. economic theory says nothing--nothing--about the probability distributions of prices. Gaussian distributions are plugged into finance models because of data-fitting exercises, convenience, and tradition). Fortunately, Grant&#039;s interesting idea about world-building over brand-building doesnn&#039;t rely on it.
I wrote a post on another blog once about &quot;new-wave utility strategy&quot; where a firm becomes a part of the infrastructure that others depend upon without thinking about it--like Google or Federal Express. It now occurs to me that a kind of meaning infrastructure might be possible too--a way of making people feel that their participation in a world or use of a service is also a message about their identity or their intentions. And we could go farther and have perhaps a modular set of meanings within one of these worlds that participants could snap together in different ways. (Although as Grant once pointed out about the meanings of clothes, these modular meaning carriers need not constitute a language.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole Naseem Taleb bubble is a bit annoying (e.g. economic theory says nothing&#8211;nothing&#8211;about the probability distributions of prices. Gaussian distributions are plugged into finance models because of data-fitting exercises, convenience, and tradition). Fortunately, Grant&#8217;s interesting idea about world-building over brand-building doesnn&#8217;t rely on it.</p>
<p>I wrote a post on another blog once about &#8220;new-wave utility strategy&#8221; where a firm becomes a part of the infrastructure that others depend upon without thinking about it&#8211;like Google or Federal Express. It now occurs to me that a kind of meaning infrastructure might be possible too&#8211;a way of making people feel that their participation in a world or use of a service is also a message about their identity or their intentions. And we could go farther and have perhaps a modular set of meanings within one of these worlds that participants could snap together in different ways. (Although as Grant once pointed out about the meanings of clothes, these modular meaning carriers need not constitute a language.)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Powell</title>
		<link>http://cultureby.com/2009/03/world-and-market-making-an-anthropological-point-of-view.html/comment-page-1#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this approach to brands is right on. Businesses need to do what great artists do: bring their audience into a metaphoric world separate from the world we&#039;re used to. It&#039;s pretty daring, though many brands have pulled it off. But when Starbucks comes out with instant coffee, or Apple begins to sell iPods at Walmart, these well-established worlds begin to crumble, at least a little bit, because these alternate worlds are not supposed to be able to even communicate or be translatable. This is the devastating problem of competing on price, too. Creating different worlds means there is no longer any perfect translation. I suppose this is a road map for how Nelson Goodman could meet branding theory!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this approach to brands is right on. Businesses need to do what great artists do: bring their audience into a metaphoric world separate from the world we&#8217;re used to. It&#8217;s pretty daring, though many brands have pulled it off. But when Starbucks comes out with instant coffee, or Apple begins to sell iPods at Walmart, these well-established worlds begin to crumble, at least a little bit, because these alternate worlds are not supposed to be able to even communicate or be translatable. This is the devastating problem of competing on price, too. Creating different worlds means there is no longer any perfect translation. I suppose this is a road map for how Nelson Goodman could meet branding theory!</p>
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