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		<title>By: Grant McCracken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant McCracken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia, directors must be all things to all people, when vested interests
want them to be very particular and monolithic things and &quot;all people&quot; get
more and more diverse in their points of view.  As you say, this must be the
shortest path to administrative misery.  Thanks, Grant
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia, directors must be all things to all people, when vested interests<br />
want them to be very particular and monolithic things and &#8220;all people&#8221; get<br />
more and more diverse in their points of view.  As you say, this must be the<br />
shortest path to administrative misery.  Thanks, Grant</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s great to see such enthusiasm in how museums are run. Thanks Grant and thanks fellow commentators!
I’ve studied Museology (Museum Studies) and have been a Curator of museum exhibitions, and from these experiences I have come to understand that museums, like most businesses &amp; startups, have to please seemingly conflicting needs.  An example can be a Director fulfilling various requests of donors—the people who provided the big bucks that keep a museum alive.  Then, you have families and tourists who want something that sparks their imagination and appreciation for things like art, history, or science.  If you can’t, they will go to the Indiana Jones ride at Disney Land because the fake artifacts and presentation there are more engaging. Then, there is the obligation to be the bearers of accurate and full information, and thus you get the PhDs and Curators obsessed with precise information.
For a refreshing change, visit a smaller museum in your neighborhood.  You are more likely to get one-on-one time with the Director or other key educators.  A conversation with them will do more for your imagination and inspiration than any big exhibition label would.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s great to see such enthusiasm in how museums are run. Thanks Grant and thanks fellow commentators!</p>
<p>I’ve studied Museology (Museum Studies) and have been a Curator of museum exhibitions, and from these experiences I have come to understand that museums, like most businesses &#038; startups, have to please seemingly conflicting needs.  An example can be a Director fulfilling various requests of donors—the people who provided the big bucks that keep a museum alive.  Then, you have families and tourists who want something that sparks their imagination and appreciation for things like art, history, or science.  If you can’t, they will go to the Indiana Jones ride at Disney Land because the fake artifacts and presentation there are more engaging. Then, there is the obligation to be the bearers of accurate and full information, and thus you get the PhDs and Curators obsessed with precise information.</p>
<p>For a refreshing change, visit a smaller museum in your neighborhood.  You are more likely to get one-on-one time with the Director or other key educators.  A conversation with them will do more for your imagination and inspiration than any big exhibition label would.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Quintanilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa Quintanilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fell in love (above), but I still feel in love with art museums. Just not art museum directors.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fell in love (above), but I still feel in love with art museums. Just not art museum directors.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa Quintanilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa Quintanilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the phrase &quot;loupey ideas.&quot; My plan is to find new places to apply it.
I feel in love with museums as an undergraduate art history major, but never wanted to be a curator for some reason. I wanted to work in &quot;audience development.&quot; I wanted other people to experience the thrill of walking up to a famous painting and seeing it in the flesh for the first time. And the exhilaration of discovering an artists you didn&#039;t know that you&#039;d connect with.
But it was not to be. I interned in several institutions and was quickly disabused of the idea that museum leadership would ever be about appealing to the masses. Museum leadership is about appealing to wealthy people to share their collections and their money. Museums often lose their connection to life as it&#039;s lived by 99% of the world today, much less the world that actually produced the work of art!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the phrase &#8220;loupey ideas.&#8221; My plan is to find new places to apply it.</p>
<p>I feel in love with museums as an undergraduate art history major, but never wanted to be a curator for some reason. I wanted to work in &#8220;audience development.&#8221; I wanted other people to experience the thrill of walking up to a famous painting and seeing it in the flesh for the first time. And the exhilaration of discovering an artists you didn&#8217;t know that you&#8217;d connect with.</p>
<p>But it was not to be. I interned in several institutions and was quickly disabused of the idea that museum leadership would ever be about appealing to the masses. Museum leadership is about appealing to wealthy people to share their collections and their money. Museums often lose their connection to life as it&#8217;s lived by 99% of the world today, much less the world that actually produced the work of art!</p>
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		<title>By: srp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have the loupe issue constantly at business schools. Publication in disciplinary journals stresses micro-level development of science, but relevance to students and business requires lots of context and synthesis. To be fair, most people in business schools are well aware of this tension and try (with varying degrees of sincerity) to relate their loupey ideas to managerially relevant concerns.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have the loupe issue constantly at business schools. Publication in disciplinary journals stresses micro-level development of science, but relevance to students and business requires lots of context and synthesis. To be fair, most people in business schools are well aware of this tension and try (with varying degrees of sincerity) to relate their loupey ideas to managerially relevant concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to play the pedant, Grant, but doesn&#039;t the hedgehog know just one thing and the fox many things?  In which case, we are asking the hedgehog to become a fox!  That transition in fact may be easier than the reverse.  It is perhaps what most of us symbol analysts do over the course of our careers, as we move upwards from a techical or professional position to a managerial one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to play the pedant, Grant, but doesn&#8217;t the hedgehog know just one thing and the fox many things?  In which case, we are asking the hedgehog to become a fox!  That transition in fact may be easier than the reverse.  It is perhaps what most of us symbol analysts do over the course of our careers, as we move upwards from a techical or professional position to a managerial one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Liebling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Liebling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points Christopher. I often see exhibits at children&#039;s museums that do an excellent job of telling a narrative. Why did the Egyptians buid pyramids? How? So many art museums fail to provide context, it&#039;s just room after room of white walls with paintings or photos on them. Perhaps if museums provided &#039;transition&#039; from one area to the next, explaining how a certain movement was a reaction to the one you experienced in the previous room.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points Christopher. I often see exhibits at children&#8217;s museums that do an excellent job of telling a narrative. Why did the Egyptians buid pyramids? How? So many art museums fail to provide context, it&#8217;s just room after room of white walls with paintings or photos on them. Perhaps if museums provided &#8216;transition&#8217; from one area to the next, explaining how a certain movement was a reaction to the one you experienced in the previous room.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Campbell, maybe, has grown up in the museum with a completely different ideal of interpretive exhibition design, one that began the 1960s with community level museums. (And other places.)
It&#039;s hard for art museums to cross over this boundary. Often because the teams that put together the exhibits aren&#039;t nearly as multidisciplinary as a science or history museum team. It&#039;s no accident that when I was studying exhibition design and planning at Georgetown, that there aren&#039;t very many examples from art museums on putting together and working with a broad team -- a team with a project manager, education staff, writing group, curators (often several from different disciplines) and of course exhibit designers. All the team is working to formulate a &quot;big idea&quot; and then figure out how all the pieces will tell this story -- the artifacts, the writing, the education programs and the design.
Art museums do still have that smaller view and an expectation of an audience that is not nearly as broad as history and science. Perhaps that&#039;s the problem too, microview for a micro-audience. Only the very big shows that are &quot;easily digestible&quot; -- your Monet shows, typically -- are ever expected to draw big crowds. And there too often isn&#039;t an understanding that art museums need to fill in gaps in education -- that most people have only the faintest idea of art history. Art museums in particular need to do a better job of not just showing work uncommented upon -- but explaining why, say, Kadinsky or Klee is so important. Why some work is so-called difficult to first appreciate and how that fits into a larger narrative about art history. The paintings alone don&#039;t do this. There&#039;s not the shared knowledge of art in the same way has historical narrative is shared.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Campbell, maybe, has grown up in the museum with a completely different ideal of interpretive exhibition design, one that began the 1960s with community level museums. (And other places.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard for art museums to cross over this boundary. Often because the teams that put together the exhibits aren&#8217;t nearly as multidisciplinary as a science or history museum team. It&#8217;s no accident that when I was studying exhibition design and planning at Georgetown, that there aren&#8217;t very many examples from art museums on putting together and working with a broad team &#8212; a team with a project manager, education staff, writing group, curators (often several from different disciplines) and of course exhibit designers. All the team is working to formulate a &#8220;big idea&#8221; and then figure out how all the pieces will tell this story &#8212; the artifacts, the writing, the education programs and the design.</p>
<p>Art museums do still have that smaller view and an expectation of an audience that is not nearly as broad as history and science. Perhaps that&#8217;s the problem too, microview for a micro-audience. Only the very big shows that are &#8220;easily digestible&#8221; &#8212; your Monet shows, typically &#8212; are ever expected to draw big crowds. And there too often isn&#8217;t an understanding that art museums need to fill in gaps in education &#8212; that most people have only the faintest idea of art history. Art museums in particular need to do a better job of not just showing work uncommented upon &#8212; but explaining why, say, Kadinsky or Klee is so important. Why some work is so-called difficult to first appreciate and how that fits into a larger narrative about art history. The paintings alone don&#8217;t do this. There&#8217;s not the shared knowledge of art in the same way has historical narrative is shared.</p>
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		<title>By: Manon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Context is necessary, yet shunned by many, particularly by art museums. I know so from experience through my work with museums and the fact that I live with a former curator.  The reason?  Among other things, because context often means inconvenient truth. For example, it is much easier to talk about the stunning aesthetic qualities of a Dogon mask, than the broader context of the the mask&#039;s symbolism and ultimately the people&#039;s plights. Many museums still believe they devalue the object, because an African mask no longer is the minimalist object when put in proper context, such as imagery of the rituals in which it is used, or shown in the proper context, such as the raffia skirt, etc.  I certainly hope Thomas Campbell is only the first of a new generation of museum directors. Such thinking is critical to the survival of art institutions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context is necessary, yet shunned by many, particularly by art museums. I know so from experience through my work with museums and the fact that I live with a former curator.  The reason?  Among other things, because context often means inconvenient truth. For example, it is much easier to talk about the stunning aesthetic qualities of a Dogon mask, than the broader context of the the mask&#8217;s symbolism and ultimately the people&#8217;s plights. Many museums still believe they devalue the object, because an African mask no longer is the minimalist object when put in proper context, such as imagery of the rituals in which it is used, or shown in the proper context, such as the raffia skirt, etc.  I certainly hope Thomas Campbell is only the first of a new generation of museum directors. Such thinking is critical to the survival of art institutions.</p>
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